07-14-2009, 01:37 PM
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#21
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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Originally Posted by 4X4
I think it's more of a national pride thing. Maybe somewhat misplaced, but I know that I'd get a real kick out of seeing a Timmys in a foreign country. I don't know why, but I would. Tim Hortons is one thing that all Canadians sort of identify with. Walking into a Timmys in the US or better yet, in Europe would just give me a bit of a kick.
When I was in Italy, I convinced the owner of my favorite pub to order in a bottle of Crown Royal. Not because Crown is my favorite or anything, just because it was cool to have a little piece of home - away from home. He prominently displayed it on the whiskey shelf with the purple bag around the bottom of the bottle and it really ended up being a hit for him. Every canuck that went through the joint ordered a shot. He actually kept ordering it and I bet he still does. Probably loses money on it, but it's the kind of thing that gives you a good feeling about a place. As a travelling canadian, if I walked into a bar overseas and there was a bottle of crown sitting there, I'd buy a shot and keep on drinking at that establishment just...because... Not sure how that really relates to a Tim's in a foreign city, I just think that alot of canadians really find it neat when we see a piece of Canada in a place where you don't really expect to.
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This.
That's what I was tryin to say. Timmy's has somehow woven their chain into Canadiana, especially in the past decade(I don't remember it being this busy growing up). I don't know how they did it, that's one hell of a marketing job. Right up there with Apple/iPod.
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07-14-2009, 01:38 PM
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#22
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: CP House of Ill Repute
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Originally Posted by 4X4
I think it's more of a national pride thing. Maybe somewhat misplaced, but I know that I'd get a real kick out of seeing a Timmys in a foreign country. I don't know why, but I would. Tim Hortons is one thing that all Canadians sort of identify with. Walking into a Timmys in the US or better yet, in Europe would just give me a bit of a kick.
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Don't you travel to see new things rather then things that are on every street corner in Canada?
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07-14-2009, 01:39 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by 4X4
I think it's more of a national pride thing. Maybe somewhat misplaced, but I know that I'd get a real kick out of seeing a Timmys in a foreign country. I don't know why, but I would. Tim Hortons is one thing that all Canadians sort of identify with. Walking into a Timmys in the US or better yet, in Europe would just give me a bit of a kick.
When I was in Italy, I convinced the owner of my favorite pub to order in a bottle of Crown Royal. Not because Crown is my favorite or anything, just because it was cool to have a little piece of home - away from home. He prominently displayed it on the whiskey shelf with the purple bag around the bottom of the bottle and it really ended up being a hit for him. Every canuck that went through the joint ordered a shot. He actually kept ordering it and I bet he still does. Probably loses money on it, but it's the kind of thing that gives you a good feeling about a place. As a travelling canadian, if I walked into a bar overseas and there was a bottle of crown sitting there, I'd buy a shot and keep on drinking at that establishment just...because... Not sure how that really relates to a Tim's in a foreign city, I just think that alot of canadians really find it neat when we see a piece of Canada in a place where you don't really expect to.
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This, this I get. This makes sense.
What I don't get are people who think that the success of Tim Horton's is somehow linked to Canada or Canadians.
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07-14-2009, 01:40 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Sainters7
This.
That's what I was tryin to say. Timmy's has somehow woven their chain into Canadiana, especially in the past decade(I don't remember it being this busy growing up). I don't know how they did it, that's one hell of a marketing job. Right up there with Apple/iPod.
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Agreed, I think it mostly has to do with purchasing (along with Home Hardware) every second of commercial space during the World Jr. tournament.
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07-14-2009, 01:43 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: At the Gates of Hell
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Originally Posted by zukes
I have had Tim Horton's as far South as Columbus, Ohio. I think that there are some in Florida as well.
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Was one in Fl. Don't know bout now.
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07-14-2009, 01:47 PM
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#26
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One of the Nine
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Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp
Don't you travel to see new things rather then things that are on every street corner in Canada?
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Well of course. But at the same time, I also find it neat when I see something familiar when I'm far away from where that familiarity lies. Like the day I was walking down the street in Amsterdam, wearing a Flames Tshirt and a guy was walking toward me wearing a Flames cap. Naturally we high fived as we passed each other.
As far as Timmy Ho's being successful outside of Canada goes, I'd be really proud if a company that so many Canadians love became popular outside of Canada. We don't really have anything like that. America has cars and McDonalds and things like that. Lots of countries have things that you immediately associate the brand name with the nationality. I can't really think of anything that immediately gets associated with Canada. RIM maybe?
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07-14-2009, 01:48 PM
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#27
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Calgary,ab
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Originally Posted by valo403
This, this I get. This makes sense.
What I don't get are people who think that the success of Tim Horton's is somehow linked to Canada or Canadians.
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You are pretty ignorant if you don't see a Canadian company helping the economy. Do you know how many CANADIANS Tim Hortons employ? Do you think if Timmies was not making the money it does it could continue to hire and have steady work for thousands of Canadians?
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07-14-2009, 01:50 PM
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#28
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 4X4
I think it's more of a national pride thing. Maybe somewhat misplaced, but I know that I'd get a real kick out of seeing a Timmys in a foreign country. I don't know why, but I would. Tim Hortons is one thing that all Canadians sort of identify with. Walking into a Timmys in the US or better yet, in Europe would just give me a bit of a kick.
When I was in Italy, I convinced the owner of my favorite pub to order in a bottle of Crown Royal. Not because Crown is my favorite or anything, just because it was cool to have a little piece of home - away from home. He prominently displayed it on the whiskey shelf with the purple bag around the bottom of the bottle and it really ended up being a hit for him. Every canuck that went through the joint ordered a shot. He actually kept ordering it and I bet he still does. Probably loses money on it, but it's the kind of thing that gives you a good feeling about a place. As a travelling canadian, if I walked into a bar overseas and there was a bottle of crown sitting there, I'd buy a shot and keep on drinking at that establishment just...because... Not sure how that really relates to a Tim's in a foreign city, I just think that alot of canadians really find it neat when we see a piece of Canada in a place where you don't really expect to.
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yep I feel the same way. A couple years ago we were driving back from West Virgina to New Jersey while I was visiting my dad and one town we went through had a Boston Pizza, it was called Boston's but still the same logo and food. We stopped and ate there, was cool to see something from home in a weird place.
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07-14-2009, 01:51 PM
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#29
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Originally Posted by FlamesKickAss
yep I feel the same way. A couple years ago we were driving back from West Virgina to New Jersey while I was visiting my dad and one town we went through had a Boston Pizza, it was called Boston's but still the same logo and food. We stopped and ate there, was cool to see something from home in a weird place.
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It's not from Boston?
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07-14-2009, 01:53 PM
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#30
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Originally Posted by troutman
It's not from Boston? 
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I think it's from Edmonton but who would want to eat at a place called Edmonton Pizza or Edmonton's?
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07-14-2009, 01:53 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Originally Posted by EDBTZ12
You are pretty ignorant if you don't see a Canadian company helping the economy. Do you know how many CANADIANS Tim Hortons employ? Do you think if Timmies was not making the money it does it could continue to hire and have steady work for thousands of Canadians?
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Slow down.
I don't think he is saying the Tim Hortons the corporate entity doesn't affect Canada. Just that 5 franchises owned by an American and staffed by Americans aren't going not have much of an effect on Canada or the Canadian locations.
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07-14-2009, 01:55 PM
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#32
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I wish Tim Horton's would go under. Then maybe a donut chain could break into the market here that actually sells decent donuts like Tim Horton's used to decades ago. And I'd be spared watching their inane commercials during hockey games.
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07-14-2009, 01:58 PM
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#33
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Market Mall Food Court
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Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp
I wish Tim Horton's would go under. Then maybe a donut chain could break into the market here that actually sells decent donuts like Tim Horton's used to decades ago. And I'd be spared watching their inane commercials during hockey games.
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Like Krispy Kreme? FAIL!
Would you like Timmys better if they had greanteafrapps there? hehe
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07-14-2009, 02:00 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp
I think it's from Edmonton but who would want to eat at a place called Edmonton Pizza or Edmonton's?
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Yep, that's why if you're ever up here in Greaseville, you'll notice there's practically one on every streetcorner. Although I can't complain. I go to BP's like the average Canadian goes to Tim's.
btw it's called "Boston Pizza" because Boston's a big city, so the name's supposed to mean they've hit the bigtime. I was briefly a bartender there a couple years back and you have to take like a BP's history exam before you start working there. I know more than a person needs to about that place's origins...
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07-14-2009, 02:01 PM
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#35
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Originally Posted by Bertuzzied
Like Krispy Kreme? FAIL!
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Krispy Kreme's donuts are WAY better then Tim Horton's have ever been.
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Would you like Timmys better if they had greanteafrapps there? hehe
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Possibly, although they'd probably come up with an inferior version of them.
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07-14-2009, 02:02 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp
I wish Tim Horton's would go under. Then maybe a donut chain could break into the market here that actually sells decent donuts like Tim Horton's used to decades ago. And I'd be spared watching their inane commercials during hockey games.
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I'd be happier if they got rid of those #%@$ing flat doughnut boxes and went back to the ones you could hold with one hand.
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"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
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07-14-2009, 02:03 PM
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#37
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Originally Posted by Sainters7
I was briefly a bartender there a couple years back and you have to take like a BP's history exam before you start working there. I know more than a person needs to about that place's origins...
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Really? So in what year did child prostitutes first start plying their trade at BP's?
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07-14-2009, 02:04 PM
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#38
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Playboy Mansion Poolboy
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Close enough to make a beer run during a TV timeout
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Originally Posted by Bertuzzied
Like Krispy Kreme? FAIL!
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Krispy Kreme failed because they over-estimated how far people would travel, and how much we would trust the freshness of the donuts found in gas stations.
Had there been two more locations; say near Chinook and up in the NW the city would have been all abuzz for a lot longer, and they could have made a go of it.
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07-14-2009, 02:06 PM
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#39
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Location: Calgary,ab
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Originally Posted by Bobblehead
Slow down.
I don't think he is saying the Tim Hortons the corporate entity doesn't affect Canada. Just that 5 franchises owned by an American and staffed by Americans aren't going not have much of an effect on Canada or the Canadian locations.
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While he did suggest that, he also mentioned how he never got any stocks at birth and how he/she thinks that iit wouldn't effect them if the company was succesful or not.
And of course having 5 location in America and staffed by americans will still positively effect Canada. Franchises cost money and they would have to pay Tim Hortons to have those locations.
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07-14-2009, 02:12 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by EDBTZ12
You are pretty ignorant if you don't see a Canadian company helping the economy. Do you know how many CANADIANS Tim Hortons employ? Do you think if Timmies was not making the money it does it could continue to hire and have steady work for thousands of Canadians?
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Do you seriously think that those Canadian franchises, which is where Canadians are employed, are at all impacted by the success of independent franchises in NYC? If so you have no idea how a franchise system operates.
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