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FanIn80 · 07-13-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Swayze11

I just asked 2 of my managers and they ranked Calgary's schools of who they would hire:
U of C
MRC
SAIT
Devry

My old manager said this: "Devry is ranked very low in industry, I am not sure why but I would probably hire a UofC or MRC grad over a Devry. Experience is probably more key then where you went to school"

My current manager said: "I would hire a U of C grad over a Devry grad. I am sure Devry grads would be good programmers but I value theory more then technical aspects. I have hired 3 Devry grads before, 1 was really good and smart but the other 2 were awful"

take it for what its worth.

Doh. I looked into MRC and the website says applications are closed for Sept 2009. I'd have to wait until Sept 2010.

Damn. Why couldn't I get laid off two months earlier!

JustAnotherGuy · 07-13-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 4X4

Hey! If I left myself subject to a joke, I damn well want to be ridiculed. State your case.

In hindsight I may have missed the point of your post. Were you meaning that you don't see the point of complex high school math?

FanIn80 · 07-13-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JustAnotherGuy

In hindsight I may have missed the point of your post. Were you meaning that you don't see the point of complex high school math?

He was saying that he has Math 30 from 10 years ago, but wouldn't be able to pass today's Math 30 entrance exams.

GreatWhiteEbola · 07-13-2009, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FanIn80

Tell me about it. I could have graduated with the Class of 92, and would be laughing all the way to a decent U of C education right now.

Don't get me wrong, I can still go the high school upgrading -> university route now... but I'm already 34, and I'm really just looking to add a formal degree to my existing resume. If I can do this with three years at DeVry instead of five years at UofC...

You would be required to take a 4-year degree program.

4-year Bachelor of Technology in Computer Information Systems
4-year Bachelor of Technology in Electronics Engineering Technology
4-year Bachelor of Business Operations programs

That is, as of, this year. Previous "degrees", were more like diplomas or at best, applied degrees.

Table 5 · 07-13-2009, 08:57 PM

After reading through some of the issues in this thread, it actually make me glad I did things the "traditional" way and went to college right after high school and got all the degrees etc. right off the bat. Every once in a while i question my education and wonder if all the time, effort, and money was worth it, but I guess I haven't had to deal with all the issues that come up if you don't get the education.

Table 5 · 07-13-2009, 08:58 PM

Btw, is it not possible to take a semester/year at Devry and then transfer over to SAIT when you can in 2010, hopefully with a few credit courses under your belt?

FanIn80 · 07-13-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GreatWhiteEbola

You would be required to take a 4-year degree program.

4-year Bachelor of Technology in Computer Information Systems
4-year Bachelor of Technology in Electronics Engineering Technology
4-year Bachelor of Business Operations programs

That is, as of, this year. Previous "degrees", were more like diplomas or at best, applied degrees.

It's done in three years. Classes are year-round.

It's a Bachelor of Computer Science, too.

FanIn80 · 07-13-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Table 5

Btw, is it not possible to take a semester/year at Devry and then transfer over to SAIT when you can in 2010, hopefully with a few credit courses under your belt?

That's in the back of my mind. I'm going to look into that for sure.

GreatWhiteEbola · 07-13-2009, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FanIn80

It's done in three years. Classes are year-round.

It's a Bachelor of Computer Science, too.

Complete a 4-year bachelor's degree programs in this traditional timeframe or accelerate your learning with year-round course scheduling – and earn your degree in less than 3 years. If you already hold a degree or diploma, you may qualify for our 16-month bachelor's degree fast-track program.

I can't seem to find info on the Bachelor of Computer Science you speak of.

http://www.devry.edu/calgary/program...ms-offered.jsp

Found this.
The Government of Alberta has granted DeVry Calgary accreditation to award the following baccalaureate degrees: Bachelor of Business Operations, Bachelor of Science in Computer Information Systems (I'm guessing this is what you meant?) and Bachelor of Science in Electronics Engineering Technology.

I am thinking of going back to school as well.

Does APEGGA have anything to do with these degrees? That would be the measuring stick.

Found this on beyond, really telling...
http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread/t-16094.html

JustAnotherGuy · 07-13-2009, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FanIn80

He was saying that he has Math 30 from 10 years ago, but wouldn't be able to pass today's Math 30 entrance exams.

Okay, well then the joke is on me. Sorry about that 4x4.

Swayze11 · 07-13-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Table 5

Btw, is it not possible to take a semester/year at Devry and then transfer over to SAIT when you can in 2010, hopefully with a few credit courses under your belt?

This is actually a great idea, you should look into this for sure.

FanIn80 · 07-13-2009, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GreatWhiteEbola

Complete a 4-year bachelor's degree programs in this traditional timeframe or accelerate your learning with year-round course scheduling – and earn your degree in less than 3 years. If you already hold a degree or diploma, you may qualify for our 16-month bachelor's degree fast-track program.

I can't seem to find info on the Bachelor of Computer Science you speak of.

http://www.devry.edu/calgary/program...ms-offered.jsp

Found this.
The Government of Alberta has granted DeVry Calgary accreditation to award the following baccalaureate degrees: Bachelor of Business Operations, Bachelor of Science in Computer Information Systems (I'm guessing this is what you meant?) and Bachelor of Science in Electronics Engineering Technology.

I am thinking of going back to school as well.

Does APEGGA have anything to do with these degrees? That would be the measuring stick.

Found this on beyond, really telling...
http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread/t-16094.html

I dunno about any of that stuff, but the link to the program page is right there on the left.

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Now you can earn your bachelor's degree in Computer Information Systems from DeVry in just 3 years and prepare yourself to be a leader in this dynamic field, designing and implementing solutions to exciting business challenges.

http://www.devry.edu/calgary/program...tems/about.jsp

Edit: And just to point out, it's not three years because it covers less stuff or whatever. It's three years because you go year-round instead of taking summers off.

FanIn80 · 07-13-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Swayze11

This is actually a great idea, you should look into this for sure.

Yeah I'm definitely going to.

FanIn80 · 07-13-2009, 10:50 PM

Edit: whoops, hit quote instead of edit

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GreatWhiteEbola · 07-13-2009, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FanIn80

I dunno about any of that stuff, but the link to the program page is right there on the left.

http://www.devry.edu/calgary/program...tems/about.jsp

Edit: And just to point out, it's not three years because it covers less stuff or whatever. It's three years because you go year-round instead of taking summers off.

The links are there, all the info that I posted, was from the DeVry page.

You shouldn't have to defend your prospective school, you shouldn't be solicited to go to their school, my answer, NO DEVRY IS DEFINITELY NOT WORTH IT, IMO.

gottabekd · 07-13-2009, 11:07 PM

Just another FYI, if are interested in a University program:

At the U of C, you can there are spring and summer semesters. Each is two months, so the classes (and material) are jammed together. I couldn't see taking more than 2 courses at a time (and I doubt they'd let you take more). Naturally, the course selection is greatly reduced, so you have to make selections wisely. Few programs in your major will be offered, so you could take optional courses at this time to fill up your required course total. Doing this doesn't add up to a degree in three years, but you could make it in 3 and a half.

jayswin · 07-13-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FanIn80

You're required to produce official High School transcripts proving your completion of the required courses. If you are unable to do so, you can apply as a "Mature Student" but you are still required to prove your ability to meet the entrance requirements.

In my case, this means Math and English 30. I have no problem with the English side, but I don't have anywhere near the level of knowledge required to pass a 30-level entrance exam in Math.

You could consider doing the high school courses you need really quickly online. I though about going a different direction and decided that I needed to upgrade high school, and in a very short period of time got 100% in Psychology, 98% in Sociology and 100% in Math 30 pure. Trust me, high school courses are ridiculously fast and easy when you're not thinking about the bell ringing at 3:30 so you can meet up with your friends and laughing at johnny Mcclasscclownian. Especially if it's only a couple.

FanIn80 · 07-13-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GreatWhiteEbola

The links are there, all the info that I posted, was from the DeVry page. I am researching schools too, I'm trying to tell you the accelerated program is for those that qualify.

You shouldn't have to defend your prospective school, you shouldn't be solicited to go to their school, my answer, NO DEVRY IS DEFINITELY NOT WORTH IT, IMO.

Dude. The Bachelor of CIS is a 3 year program. It's not a sepcially-accelerated version of a 4 year program. You go year-round and finish it in 3 years.

I've already been offered the seat in the program, and the link I gave you clearly spells it out.

jayswin · 07-13-2009, 11:12 PM

I should also add that those online courses trim a lot of the unnessecary "fat", and allow you to basically "show an understanding" of a concept, do a unit quiz, then move on to the next unit. Instead of sitting there and doing 50 algebra questions so the teacher can nurse her hangover with her coffee.

FanIn80 · 07-13-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by flameswin

I should also add that those online courses trim a lot of the unnessecary "fat", and allow you to basically "show an understanding" of a concept, do a unit quiz, then move on to the next unit. Instead of sitting there and doing 50 algebra questions so the teacher can nurse her hangover with her coffee.

Nice. Who offers these courses?