Ufc 100

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

I am a bit pissed that they didn't show more of the undercard on this. This was actually a pretty crap PPV. At least one of the earlier fights was super bloody because it was all over the canvas.

Lesner is a total moron and whereas I have purchased his last two PPV, I can't see me getting another one of his. I really didn't enjoy his schtick and won't be wasting my money on him again.

GSP though, I'll pay to watch him fight again.

That's the thing I like about WWE PPVs. Yeah, it's scripted but you know you're getting 8 matches so you get more for your money. With the UFC you kind of wish every fight finishes in the first or second round so that you can see more.

[Montana Moe]

One of the things I like most about MMA is the respect they have for another, knowing the discipline and training that goes into preparation for a fight.

That is the one thing I don't like about Lesnar is the WWE angle he seems to play for the cameras. Weeks/days after the fights, he seems to be more humble about his opponents, but before and right after, it is not appealing.

I'm sure some of it is him preparing mentally for the opponent, but once the fight is over I'd like him to show a little respect. This is usually the case unless there is some bad blood like in Bisping/Henderson.

The trash talk and belittling your opponent belongs in the boxing/pro wrestling ring, IMO.

[3 Justin 3]

Thanks for the youtube links, I have been trying to watch the Lesnar KO. The Handerson one was beautiful, knocks him out, then just punches him in the face when he is down.

Who were the fighters for the really bloody fight? Blood was everywhere on the canvas.

[killer_carlson]

go to

www.sherdog.com and they have a round by round description of each fight.

As far as Lesnar goes, I can't see the UFC being too happy about him dissing their sponsor on their biggest night to date. I wonder what the fall out will be?

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Montana Moe

This is usually the case unless there is some bad blood like in Bisping/Henderson.

There is bad blood between Lesner and Mir. Even more than Bisping and Henderson.

[kukkudo]

This is what Dana White wants some entertainment, make Brock the big a-hole of the UFC.

[bluejays]

My opinion of Bisping is he's just a joker. Cocky, yes, but does stuff as a joke, so it doesn't bother me at all. I don't think there's bad blood between Henderson and him either. Just a fun rivalry. He got it handed to him tonight though. On a side note, Lesnar destroyed Mir, and in such a one sided way it was like a big brother beating on a little one. It was tough to watch. What a classless bum too. I did rather enjoy his plug at Coors Light, but his other antics, naa. He just comes across as the biggest dirtbag. I don't know who they're gonna have go up against him in that weightclass, but I really wanna see him destroyed. Mir took it like a champ and surprisingly didn't badmouth Lesnar after it was over after Lesnar verbally took shot after shot at him after it was over. Hope Lesnar gets it good his next match.

[Hanna Sniper]

Mir talked a lot of trash pre-fight, if you want to talk the talk then be prepared to take your medicine if you're unable to back it up (which he did, and major props)... Some will say that the pre-fight talking don't really get in the fighters heads but there's no question from the actions of both Henderson and Lesner tonight it backfired and was a driving force for their victories.

I've always have a tough time with were I stand with the trash talk. I guess I draw the line at if you talk a lot of trash and then win the fight and you continue to talk. But I'm a big Nick Diaz fan and that is the complete opposite of what I just said. As long as it's genuine and not staged maybe... who knows

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Montana Moe

One of the things I like most about MMA is the respect they have for another, knowing the discipline and training that goes into preparation for a fight.

That is the one thing I don't like about Lesnar is the WWE angle he seems to play for the cameras. Weeks/days after the fights, he seems to be more humble about his opponents, but before and right after, it is not appealing.

I'm sure some of it is him preparing mentally for the opponent, but once the fight is over I'd like him to show a little respect. This is usually the case unless there is some bad blood like in Bisping/Henderson.

The trash talk and belittling your opponent belongs in the boxing/pro wrestling ring, IMO.

Agree with everything you said but I lost a bit of respect for Henderson tonight when Joe Rogan asked him if he knew Bisping was already knocked out before he slammed him on the ground.

I can see the animal/fighter instinct to go for the kill but to say that normally he'd have backed away but decided to hit him to keep him quiet for a bit longer IMO reeked of irresponsibility and lack of class. Be a gracious winner regardless especially when your opponent still hasn't woke up.

Hell of a knockout though. Bisping is far too cautious and defensive to cut it and lacks the knockout power. Reminded me a bit of his Hamill fight (which he lost). Wants to jab/box cardio his way to a safe decision win.

Having said that Bisping went wayyyyy down in my books after he won the UF especially with his "back to wrestling" comment to Hamill when he got a more than dodgy decision and his inability to shut his mouth when the 2 UK fellas made the final.

Scoring is still very suspect again. One judge giving Akiyama 30-27.

GSP remains a class act.

[bluejays]

GSP's fight wasn't a great one. Again, I guess I'm taking the guy for granted, but he's so well conditioned, that he seems to outshine guys when it gets past the 3rd round, or into the last few minutes of each round. It works, but I would really like to see him work on his striking ability when he's up against Anderson Silva. We all know GSP can take guys down, but with a guy like Silva, he gotta be prepared to duke it out and I'd like to see some serious haymakers thrown.

[habernac]

Originally Posted by fleury

GSP's fight wasn't a great one. Again, I guess I'm taking the guy for granted, but he's so well conditioned, that he seems to outshine guys when it gets past the 3rd round, or into the last few minutes of each round. It works, but I would really like to see him work on his striking ability when he's up against Anderson Silva. We all know GSP can take guys down, but with a guy like Silva, he gotta be prepared to duke it out and I'd like to see some serious haymakers thrown.

he dominated the guy, what else do you want? There are 5 rounds, why would an intelligent fighter even try anything risky like stand toe to toe and swing for the fences after he's won 3 rounds?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Agree with everything you said but I lost a bit of respect for Henderson tonight when Joe Rogan asked him if he knew Bisping was already knocked out before he slammed him on the ground.

I don't know about that. It's a brutal man's sport and if you are going to spout off and be a clown you better back it up. Bisping pushed Henderson to the point where he wanted to hurt him and mission accomplished. If Bisping was more professional in the UFC he probably wouldn't have got the blow to 'shut him up'. I hope Bisping learned his lesson tonight.

Lesnar was a complete clown tonight. The worst winner you will ever see.

[burnin_vernon]

I can't believe some people condone Lesnar's behaviour, saying it's good theater, etc... When this white trash oaf opens his mouth like that, it just sets the sport back several years. People who have a blind hate-on for MMA get more ammo to knock it down because of attitudes like this. It will never be accepted for the great competition it is with guys like Lesnar. Fingering the crowd? Really? Go back to the WWE.

This outcome stings doubly because I hate seeing big huge ground and pounders win one-dimensional fights. Real entertaining to see a guy get on top and hammer fist every time a la the Kevin Randleman/Mark Coleman days.

Oh, and lost some respect for Hendo too. He should have kept his mouth shut like he always does instead of spouting off in the interview. Another sore winner.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I don't know about that. It's a brutal man's sport and if you are going to spout off and be a clown you better back it up. Bisping pushed Henderson to the point where he wanted to hurt him and mission accomplished. If Bisping was more professional in the UFC he probably wouldn't have got the blow to 'shut him up'. I hope Bisping learned his lesson tonight.

I agree, it's a brutal mans sport, there's an animal instinct in there to kill.

All I'm saying is IF THERE IS a need to slam someone's jaw when they're out show a bit of respect after and whatever you do don't admit intent to hitting an already unconscious opponent (not clever IMO).

[burnin_vernon]

Originally Posted by Bagor

I agree, it's a brutal mans sport, there's an animal instinct in there to kill.

But Hendo said he normally would have backed off. That wasn't instinct, it was asshollery

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by burnin_vernon

But Hendo said he normally would have backed off. That wasn't instinct, it was asshollery

Agreed ... That's my point.

A few posts back.

I can see the animal/fighter instinct to go for the kill but to say that normally he'd have backed away but decided to hit him to keep him quiet for a bit longer IMO reeked of irresponsibility and lack of class.

[MJM]

I don't really understand the people bashing Brock Lesnar for his post-fight behaviour. Frank Mir is the biggest POS in MMA. He talked, and talked, and talked for weeks before the fight and previously called Lesnar out (I still don't understand why, the only reason he won the first fight was the UFC was nervous was Lesnar would do if he got on top and they likely instructed the ref if it happened to pull him off early).

All week Lesnar's been saying he'd do his talking on Saturday night, and he did. You interview a guy as jacked up as he was seconds after beating the tar out of someone who ran their mouth for months, and you gotta expect some fireworks.

The Bud Light comment was unnecessary though, and i'm sure Dana White is mad as hell about that.

[Sly]

Oooohhh the Hendo KO on Bisping made the PPV totally worth it.... you get two KO's in one.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by burnin_vernon

Fingering the crowd? Really? Go back to the WWE.

He did the same thing his final match in the WWE when the crowd was doing the 'hey hey hey goodbye' chant after he lost.

People say he pulls his antics because he came from the WWE but I think the guy is just a big douchbag who would be doing the same things had he went straight from amateur wrestling to MMA.

[killer_carlson]

GSP utterly destroyed Alves' character tonight. After the fight the man was clearly defeated - his eyes were almost swollen shut and GSP didn't even look like he had been in a fight, his body language went well beyond disappointment in losing, it was a crushing blow to his entire persona and character.

The group I was watching with all commented on it. That GSP victory was dominating on so many levels and Alves left defeated in every sense of the word.

Still thinking about Lesnar and have to agree with the comment above that his antics put the sport back about 6 or 7 years. The critics of the sport will show his post fight antics for years to come.