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Old 07-07-2009, 01:20 PM   #1
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Is the quality of HD DVD the same as Blu-ray?

HMV has a ton of great HD DVD movies on sale 4/$20 (so $5 each). These movies on blu-ray are in the 25-35 dollar range.

I am thinking of picking up a HD DVD player and about 30 of these movies. It makes sense economically.

Any thoughts on the quality?
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Old 07-07-2009, 01:23 PM   #2
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It will be very similar to blu-ray. The only thing is, it's an obsolete format so once you've bought the player and these movies, that's it. New movies will never come out in this format.
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It will be very similar to blu-ray. The only thing is, it's an obsolete format so once you've bought the player and these movies, that's it. New movies will never come out in this format.

That part I realize.

For the hundreds of titles that are available, it seems worth it. Apparently there are warehouses full of them in the states, and they will continue to fall in price.

I think the way to go may be to buy the XBOX 360 arcade. Then get the HD DVD add on.
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What you'll find with these movies is that their Blu-Ray counterparts have the exact same video transfer but a higher quality lossless audio transfer. If picture quality is your only concern then I would go for it. If on the other hand you want superb audio as well you should know that most (not all) HD-DVDs that are on sale have compressed sound (Dolby 5.1 compared to Dolby True-HD, DTS-MA, uncompressed tracks, etc.)

I would go for it. HMV has 4 for $20 deals, Superstore has them for $6.99 (if you can stand going through their cheap DVD/HD-DVD bins), and Walmart sells them for 4 for $20 too. You can find some great titles if you do a bit of searching. I probably have about 20-25 HD-DVDs because of these sales and they are a great buy.
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Old 07-07-2009, 01:57 PM   #5
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What you'll find with these movies is that their Blu-Ray counterparts have the exact same video transfer but a higher quality lossless audio transfer. If picture quality is your only concern then I would go for it. If on the other hand you want superb audio as well you should know that most (not all) HD-DVDs that are on sale have compressed sound (Dolby 5.1 compared to Dolby True-HD, DTS-MA, uncompressed tracks, etc.)

I would go for it. HMV has 4 for $20 deals, Superstore has them for $6.99 (if you can stand going through their cheap DVD/HD-DVD bins), and Walmart sells them for 4 for $20 too. You can find some great titles if you do a bit of searching. I probably have about 20-25 HD-DVDs because of these sales and they are a great buy.
Hmmm was unaware of the audio issues.

It still might be worth it. I am probably going to get an XBOX 360 anyway (you can get them for 150 now). I can find a used HD DVD add on for about $50 bucks.

So for 200 i get an xbox 360 and the ability to play a ton of hi-def movies for $5 a piece.
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It's not a huge issue. It's like you're getting a visual upgrade from going from DVD to HD DVD but the audio is still DVD quality (which is still quite good). There is a difference, however, listening to a compressed vs non-compressed sound track but for $5 a movie you can let that slide
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My concern would be compatability going forward. As i stands right now, my DVDs will play fine in my Blu-Ray player, and also will in the next format they are working on. Word is that in the next generation of optical drive player will have backwards compatability for Blu-Ray.

So for me if it would be a "I'll only watch this once" movie then I'd be better off renting it, and if it was a movie I wanted to keep- I would want a format that was going to stick around.

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I hear portable tape players and tapes are dirt cheap as well. You can save tons if you buy those instead of a mp3 player!
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I hear portable tape players and tapes are dirt cheap as well. You can save tons if you buy those instead of a mp3 player!
I think that's a terrible analogy. I have the HD add-on for the 360, and love it. I own a number of HD-DVDs, and wouldn't hesitate to buy more, especially at the 4/20 price.
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I know Future Shop (a few months back) had the 360 HD DVD player addons for dirt cheap.. like $20 if i remember. I'd check a few FS's to see what they got... Best buy may of also had these
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I hear portable tape players and tapes are dirt cheap as well. You can save tons if you buy those instead of a mp3 player!
There is a significant quality difference going from tapes to mp3. Going from HD-DVD to Blu Ray is not a significant change at all. They are pretty much equal in quality. Blu Ray just has more things going for it than HD DVD did, most notably a larger storage space.
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Old 07-07-2009, 03:32 PM   #12
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you cant go wrong with a $20 xbox hd dvd player, and a whole bunch of $4.99-$6.99 hd dvds. I have over 100 hd dvd's that i only payed from the range of 3.99 to 10 bucks. This time last year was when I was picking them up I remember i got the mission impossible set for 25 bucks compared to 80 bucks on Blu ray.
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Old 07-07-2009, 04:15 PM   #13
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If there's an interest for this perhaps we should start a list of where people have seen them on sale. Off the top of my head...

HMV
- Four Brothers
- Top Gun
- Hot Rod
- Transformers
- Ocean's 13
- Blazing Saddles
- Matrix
- Nacho Libre
- Shooter
- Blades of Glory
- Beowulf

Walmart

- Shrek 3
- Transformers
- Sahara
- Mission Impossible
- Hustle and Flow

Superstore
- The Kingdom
- Chuck and Larry
- Hot Fuzz
- Slither
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But why would you purchase old technology now, when you can get something that will be supported in the future? No new movies are coming out on HD-DVD, and nothing in the Future will support them.

At least if you buy a Blu-Ray player and Blu-Ray movies, you can use them in the Future. Sure, everything regarding HD-DVD is cheap, but I'd rather pay for something being supported now. And my home audio system definitely takes advantage of a Blu-Ray.

I personally would rather spend more money now, then having to replace equipment in the future.
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I can't speak for others but for me I already purchased an HD-DVD player when it came out a few years ago. I don't plan on upgrading these movies until a new technology comes out (whatever is coming after Blu-Ray). At the moment I would just rather pay $5 for a movie on HD-DVD than pay $25 for the same movie on Blu Ray (I do have a Blu-Ray player as well).

I just think that if you can buy a player for $20 and the media for $5 then you should go for it provided you don't plan on buying the Blu-Ray equivalent in the future.

To each their own, I guess.
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But why would you purchase old technology now, when you can get something that will be supported in the future? No new movies are coming out on HD-DVD, and nothing in the Future will support them.

At least if you buy a Blu-Ray player and Blu-Ray movies, you can use them in the Future. Sure, everything regarding HD-DVD is cheap, but I'd rather pay for something being supported now. And my home audio system definitely takes advantage of a Blu-Ray.

I personally would rather spend more money now, then having to replace equipment in the future.
I already have a blu-ray player I got for 150 bucks on boxing day. The problem is all the good movies are 25+.

If the HD movies are only 5 and I can get the player for 100 then I only have to buy 5 movies to make the purchase worthwhile. At 5 dollars (and falling) a pop I'll probably buy closer to 100 movies.

From what I've read the HD is comparable to the Blu-ray in terms of quality. In fact, identical as the information that is coded onto the disc is encoded using the same methods. The talk about sub-par audio may be isolated to specific disks, but the format itself is capable of the same audio.

Whether or not I buy the 360/add on or the stand alone HD-DVD player will depend on the price I can get.

If I can find a stand alone for 80 or less I'll go with that, otherwise it's the 360
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For me, the only thing stopping me from considering doing this is lack of space in my unit for the additional player. If I had the space it would be a no brainer to pick up a buncha movies and very least it is an upconverting dvd player for another TV when the time comes.
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I'm not buying a Blu-Ray player because I don't buy movies anymore. For quite awhile, I was buying a fair amount of DVDs. I just can't justify the cost anymore, so I just rent the movies I really want to see. Because of that, I also can't justify the cost of a Blu-Ray player. The DVDs look good enough for me when watching on my HD-DVD player.

I suppose eventually I'll get a Blu-Ray player, but I don't see it happening any time soon.
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I'm not buying a Blu-Ray player because I don't buy movies anymore. For quite awhile, I was buying a fair amount of DVDs. I just can't justify the cost anymore, so I just rent the movies I really want to see. Because of that, I also can't justify the cost of a Blu-Ray player. The DVDs look good enough for me when watching on my HD-DVD player.

I suppose eventually I'll get a Blu-Ray player, but I don't see it happening any time soon.
That's the thing... how much does it cost to rent a movie now? 5 bucks...

How much does it cost to buy an HD-DVD... 5 bucks...
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My concern would be compatability going forward. As i stands right now, my DVDs will play fine in my Blu-Ray player, and also will in the next format they are working on. Word is that in the next generation of optical drive player will have backwards compatability for Blu-Ray.

So for me if it would be a "I'll only watch this once" movie then I'd be better off renting it, and if it was a movie I wanted to keep- I would want a format that was going to stick around.

My 2¢.
Isn't the next format Holodisc? And that can hold like TB's worth of data?
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