The Blue Jays: 2009 Season Thread - Page 51 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

GirlySports · 07-05-2009, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

^ Yes, okay. Still sucks.

And the new Yankee stadium is a joke. I could probably hit a home run in that park.

Me too! Let's have a home run derby. It would really suck if we ever have World Series games there that are 10-8.

CrusaderPi · 07-06-2009, 04:11 AM

I can envision the Yankees experimenting with that stadium and using the Twins old air circulation trick. Back in the day the grounds crew at the Metrodome would turn on the fans that pointed straight out prior to the bottom of the eighth inning. The Twins would get 6 outs with the wind blowing out, the visitors 3.

burn_baby_burn · 07-06-2009, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

And the new Yankee stadium is a joke. I could probably hit a home run in that park.

Band Box in the Bronx. All that crap about the wind being different than the old stadium is garbage. If the new stadium is supposed to be the exact dimensions and placement as the old stadium? How can the wind intensify that much moving the field one block over? Obviously there is a difference in the surrounding structure, but to believe that all of a sudden there is a wind tunnel blowing the ball out at an alarming rate is ridiculous. The Yankees can pretend to bring in all the wind experts they want. Its obvious that the new stadium has shorter dimensions than the old stadium and that the outfield wall is also shorter allowing balls to leave the park more frequently.

burn_baby_burn · 07-06-2009, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moon

Why do the Yankees continue to force Chamberlain as a starter?

He would be a great 8th inning guy for the Yanks and then eventual closer and instead he is in there throwing away what should have been an easy win for the Yankees today.

Thats a pretty heated topic in the Yankees Universe. If Joba has a good start then the debate leans to him remaining in the rotation. If he has a poor outing like yesterday then the debate leans to him being put back in the Bull Pen. He was drafted as a starter and is only 23 years old. Most pitchers need a little seasoning to become dominate or consistent. Part of the problem is the Yankees don't have anybody better to replace him in the rotation. Especially with Wang being put on the DL. Some feel Phil Hughes should be in the rotation instead of Joba. Hughes has been pitching well in relieve this season so Girardi wants to keep him in the Bull Pen. Unless Joba really self destructs on a consistent basis, then I think the Yanks will continue to keep him in the rotation.

GirlySports · 07-06-2009, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn

Band Box in the Bronx. All that crap about the wind being different than the old stadium is garbage. If the new stadium is supposed to be the exact dimensions and placement as the old stadium? How can the wind intensify that much moving the field one block over? Obviously there is a difference in the surrounding structure, but to believe that all of a sudden there is a wind tunnel blowing the ball out at an alarming rate is ridiculous. The Yankees can pretend to bring in all the wind experts they want. Its obvious that the new stadium has shorter dimensions than the old stadium and that the outfield wall is also shorter allowing balls to leave the park more frequently.

Yup. John McDonald just hit a homer!

Pagal4321 · 07-06-2009, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Yup. John McDonald just hit a homer!

I saw that and had to TRIPLE check if it was a mistake or not....stupid Yankees Stadium.

Ziggy Lidstrom · 07-06-2009, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Yup. John McDonald just hit a homer!

Yeah but to Left. The controversy surrounds the right field wall. But, yes, Johnny Mac just hit one out.

Did anyone read the article pertaining to JP's reaction to the teams record?

Basically he was impressed with all the injuries to the PStaff and how players like Hill, Lind and Rolen are playing.

Essentially I agree, but I am just sour that our team is never leading the AL East from june forward. Sour grapes, but I want a winner or a contender. We, jays fans, have been without any playoff success for a while(15 years). Without any post season success, how are we supposed to feel? Inferior? Is the gap between the haves and have nots widening to a level of disparity that will see our team be a punching bag for the heavy weights?

Pagal4321 · 07-06-2009, 01:38 PM

The potential was there this year, at least I think so, to at least compete. But you can't look past ALL the injuries to the pitching staff.....it's brutal that we have 3 kids, fresh from the farm in our starting rotation.

burn_baby_burn · 07-06-2009, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

Essentially I agree, but I am just sour that our team is never leading the AL East from june forward. Sour grapes, but I want a winner or a contender. We, jays fans, have been without any playoff success for a while(15 years). Without any post season success, how are we supposed to feel? Inferior? Is the gap between the haves and have nots widening to a level of disparity that will see our team be a punching bag for the heavy weights?

It doesn't seem that long ago that the Jays were one of the heavy weights. A jam packed stadium with teams loaded with high priced talent (for the time). What happened? Where were the Yankees and Red Sox back then? When the issue of revenue sharing was brought up during the Blue Jays hey day they voted against it.

Tyler · 07-06-2009, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn

It doesn't seem that long ago that the Jays were one of the heavy weights.

It does to me.

Pagal4321 · 07-06-2009, 03:54 PM

Brad Mills out with bruised ribs.

Rzepczynski (WHO?!) is starting on Tuesday.

This is getting almost comical.

flambers · 07-06-2009, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pagal4321

Brad Mills out with bruised ribs.

Rzepczynski (WHO?!) is starting on Tuesday.

This is getting almost comical.

Yah no kidding who in the heck is that.....

Sylvanfan · 07-06-2009, 04:38 PM

Maybe they should try starting Lyle Overbay? No, better not he'd probably end up needing Tommy John surgery the next day. Talk about brutal luck with the pitching staff this year.

On the bright side, another respectable outing by Romero in a tough ball park against a really good hitting team. Touch wood, but hopefully he can stay some semblance of healthy.

Ziggy Lidstrom · 07-06-2009, 10:11 PM

Wow, our bullpen has undergone a complete 180 this year. Frick, 7-6? 7-3 going into bottom of the eighth! How many friggin walks!! I just have to temper my newfound expectation ( newfound from the early start and the hope that we'll contend for the wild card). Also, I have, as all of you jay's fans do as well, that we will move Doc. It's not a question of why but when. Go, RZeplewinski! be our next jesse litsch, so we can burn your arm out after a promising rookie stint as an encore.

Ziggy Lidstrom · 07-06-2009, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn

It doesn't seem that long ago that the Jays were one of the heavy weights. A jam packed stadium with teams loaded with high priced talent (for the time). What happened? Where were the Yankees and Red Sox back then? When the issue of revenue sharing was brought up during the Blue Jays hey day they voted against it.

Sure Karma is a B!$%*, but that was nearly 15 years ago. I see a chicago, cleveland or a pre 2004 boston team type of future for us. What were their losing streaks up to?

Sylvanfan · 07-07-2009, 08:56 AM

http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=283950

Well J.P. is said to be taking offers for Roy Halladay. It would really suck to trade him. But for where the Jays are, and him only having one year left on his contract it may be the economic reality for them. He'd certainly bolster the rotation of any contending team he went to.

flambers · 07-07-2009, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=283950

Well J.P. is said to be taking offers for Roy Halladay. It would really suck to trade him. But for where the Jays are, and him only having one year left on his contract it may be the economic reality for them. He'd certainly bolster the rotation of any contending team he went to.

Personally I believe the right thing to do is to trade Halladay. I don't believe there is any chance Doc will ressign with the Jays (FA at the end of 2010 season).

With the long term injuries the pitching staff has obtained the Jays need to seriously ask the question can they challenge for a wild card spot next season?

If the answer is no, they need to trade Halladay before the July 31st dead-line in order to get maximum return.

tigger777 · 07-07-2009, 09:18 AM

After all these losing seasons with the Jays, Doc derserves to be on a winning team.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=283950

Well J.P. is said to be taking offers for Roy Halladay. It would really suck to trade him. But for where the Jays are, and him only having one year left on his contract it may be the economic reality for them. He'd certainly bolster the rotation of any contending team he went to.

Machiavelli · 07-07-2009, 09:20 AM

Just trade him to a team with a chance at the championship. He deserves it.

Edit: Yeah, what ^ he said

Gozer · 07-07-2009, 09:21 AM

I like watching the Doc, if I believed that trading him would lead to a deep playoff run I would be behind it, but I don't.

Then again, JP has said "we'll listen" to this question for a couple years - this isn't news.