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Old 06-29-2009, 10:28 PM   #21
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But hey, it's TV, let's just get 3 big names to jam together and see what happens for ratings.

I would think Page is more than just a "big name". The guy is a legend, although I agree it would be more interesting for him to be talking with people who were just as legendary but with different styles. My dream would be Page, Pete Townshend and Keith Richards
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I would think Page is more than just a "big name". The guy is a legend, although I agree it would be more interesting for him to be talking with people who were just as legendary but with different styles. My dream would be Page, Pete Townshend and Keith Richards
I think they are trying to do more of a clash of different eras thing as well but you are right, Page, Townshend, and Richards would be great.

Oh and this isn't to say I don't love seeing different famous guitarists getting together and jamming...

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I'd be a lot more excited about this if it had ANY 3 of the following:

-Slash

-Billy Duffy

-Paul Gilbert

-Brian May

-John Fruciante

-Nuno Betencourt
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^^^ Ooo yeah John Fruciante would be great!
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In the end, this thread will just turn into another "well, this sucks because it's not my favorite guitarists!"

I have to admit, I am guilty of that as well.

I have to admit, I was never a big Page fan, it was just outside my era and milleu of guitarists by a few years. The Edge - he's cool with his pedals and his ebow (or Fernandes Sustainer as he has been using lately) and other effects...but as a pure guitarist? Who knows, we never really see anything else from him, maybe this movie would change my mind. Jack White? I admit, I've only heard a few White Stripes songs. Was never my cup of tea.

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They should make a movie like this except with Bassists, too bad that Cliff Burton's gone, since he would have been perfect for a movie like that.

This movie looks good though, it's better than a lot of the lame crap that comes out these days.
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They should make a movie like this except with Bassists, too bad that Cliff Burton's gone, since he would have been perfect for a movie like that.

This movie looks good though, it's better than a lot of the lame crap that comes out these days.
I concur. Most "great" bands have a "great" bassist on staff. 98% of bands I hear have mediocre bassists who merely pound the beat out.

Red Hot Chilli Peppers are blessed with an amazing bassist (Flea) as well as a gifted guitarist. The synergy between those two players rivals jazz musicians.
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I'm just looking forward to seeing some the "tricks" etc. To me, Page, Edge and White are wizards at applying effects and finding unique ways of making sounds. I know there are many others, too, but these three have probably 100 million albums sold amongst them. They have unique, instantly-recognizable sounds and are also individually interesting people with definite presence.

I have no clue how to play a regular guitar (I'm a drummer, and I'm in the process of teaching myself the bass guitar), but I have a huge interest in sounds and the recording/writing process. I've always been a lyrics guy (just comes easier for me), but I've also always wanted to create the music to go along with the words... if that makes any sense.

This documentary couldn't have come along at a better time for me.

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Without Pete Townsend, Eddie Van Halen there is no discussion. Slash is one of my favorite angry guitar players as well.
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Not sure why, but I find this comment kind of stupid.
I'm not sure why you find it stupid either. Maybe because I lumped Page, White, and The Edge all into one group? I can't help it, a lot of mainstream guitar playing that most people follow seem to follow that white/western modality.

I'm a big fan of rock, but also jazz, and especially funk..and most people have no idea what kind of player Prince is. He's probably one of the best in so many styles and pure musicianship and almost nobody knows it (he's also a major wierdo and paranoid about the internet and piracy and control of what people se so you never see any clips of the good things he does which he only does live for live audiences)...but I consider him the best overall guitarist in the world.

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Without Pete Townsend, Eddie Van Halen there is no discussion. Slash is one of my favorite angry guitar players as well.
Eddie was one of the best...so amazing. But he went through drug addiction and cancer and had a portion of his tongue removed. He was in really bad shape for many years.



I haven't heard anything from him in such a long time.
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I saw Van Halen when they came here a few years ago (2005 I think) and trust me.....the guy can still play.
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We're also in a new generation - the Youtube generation. I believe there are talents out there that can eclipse the greats in pure playing ability - not the legends, not the style, not the history, and not the music, but in ability they are there doing their own thing. That to me, is more exciting, than seeing a TV show like this. Most guitarists are already super familiar with these guys and all their tricks or instruments...it's the musical creativity and technique and feel that is hard to emulate.

I usually don't like shredding but this man amazes me beyond belief...and he shreds with such melody and creativity and does every guitar trick in the book. Fanin80, if you want to see tricks - just watch this. This guy is pure talent and dexterity and speed and techniques that I cannot think of any guitar legends could keep up with.

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I'm not sure why you find it stupid either. Maybe because I lumped Page, White, and The Edge all into one group? I can't help it, a lot of mainstream guitar playing that most people follow seem to follow that white/western modality.

I'm a big fan of rock, but also jazz, and especially funk..and most people have no idea what kind of player Prince is. He's probably one of the best in so many styles and pure musicianship and almost nobody knows it (he's also a major wierdo and paranoid about the internet and piracy and control of what people se so you never see any clips of the good things he does which he only does live for live audiences)...but I consider him the best overall guitarist in the world.
Ya maybe I just wasn't sure White Anglo-saxon was a musical genre. And I do agree Prince is a very good guitarist.
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Red Hot Chilli Peppers are blessed with an amazing bassist (Flea) .

Are they ever!!

I've seen them live many times, often I've come away thinking that Flea made a deal with the devil. His talent on the Bass is crazy!!
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This is my bass hero


Not the best video (it's the same licks over and over again since it's an instructional video but standalone of him playing is rare).

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I'm not sure why you find it stupid either. Maybe because I lumped Page, White, and The Edge all into one group? I can't help it, a lot of mainstream guitar playing that most people follow seem to follow that white/western modality.

I'm a big fan of rock, but also jazz, and especially funk..and most people have no idea what kind of player Prince is. He's probably one of the best in so many styles and pure musicianship and almost nobody knows it (he's also a major wierdo and paranoid about the internet and piracy and control of what people se so you never see any clips of the good things he does which he only does live for live audiences)...but I consider him the best overall guitarist in the world.
Not knocking you on Prince or anything, I personally don't like his music but to each their own. Not denying his versatility either.

But grouping Page into that group with Jack White and The Edge?

You Shook Me - Blues
Traveling Riverside Blues - Slide
Whole Lotta Love - Riff
Immigrant Song - Heavy
Stairway to Heaven - Ballad
The Rain Song - Classical
D'yer Maker - Reggae
Going to California - Finger picking acoustic
That's the Way - Acoustic (he also always used different mic placements)
Fool In the Rain - Samba...ish???
Bron-Y-Aur Stomp - Folk
The Crunge - Funk
Hot Dog - Rockabilly
Down By the Seaside - Effects
Kashmir - Indian
Hats Off to Roy Harper - Slide/Blues/Acoustic

All of these songs have a completely different and unique style to it, and there are many more. Page is far from formalistic. Led Zeppelin and Jimmy Page can now be considered mainstream due to the sheer popularity of the band, but cannot be slotted into any one particular genre. Best live band too.
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Not knocking you on Prince or anything, I personally don't like his music but to each their own. Not denying his versatility either.

But grouping Page into that group with Jack White and The Edge?

You Shook Me - Blues
Traveling Riverside Blues - Slide
Whole Lotta Love - Riff
Immigrant Song - Heavy
Stairway to Heaven - Ballad
The Rain Song - Classical
D'yer Maker - Reggae
Going to California - Finger picking acoustic
That's the Way - Acoustic (he also always used different mic placements)
Fool In the Rain - Samba...ish???
Bron-Y-Aur Stomp - Folk
The Crunge - Funk
Hot Dog - Rockabilly
Down By the Seaside - Effects
Kashmir - Indian
Hats Off to Roy Harper - Slide/Blues/Acoustic

All of these songs have a completely different and unique style to it, and there are many more. Page is far from formalistic. Led Zeppelin and Jimmy Page can now be considered mainstream due to the sheer popularity of the band, but cannot be slotted into any one particular genre. Best live band too.
I put all those into the traditional western evolution of the classic rock genre (which Page was instrumental for as well). Rock was an incorporation of blues reinvented and popularized largely by white muscians. The incorporation of reggae into rock is nothing new and folk music has it's place in that millieu as well and many of the other experiemental things developed into a prog rock, etc. Page was instrumental in a lot of this stuff, as were all the muscians of the era. To me, it's all part of that entire movement. In no way am I catagorizing Page with The Edge and Jack White as the same kind of music or limited in the kind of stuff they can play...but for me, it falls into a certain catagory in how my brain sorts out music as it always tries to hear the root of things. Maybe not for you.

I always seem to go back to the original blues, trying to imagine the stuff that Clapton and Harrison and Richards, etc. were hearing on the imported R&B records they were buying as youngsters from America to develop what would evolve into rock. But oddly enough, I never really enjoyed any of the actual 60s/70s nacsent rock developing or the real Page era. I sort of jump to the late 70s into prog rock, into glam rock, the early Police doing their reggae songs, late 70s Pink Floyd, 80s New Wave, Heavy Metal etc...but honestly. Never a fan of Led Zepplin at all (nor the Stones...or early Deep Purple...or early Sabbath really).

What I guess I really meant by lumping those guys from this movie together is I am tired of all the classic walls that I feel a movie about guitar heroes is supposed to fall into. If you are playing blues, slide, folk, R&B, rock, etc...they all fall into the same catagory for my brain as it naturally sorts things out by music history. I am just someone who really is sick of those traditional walls. I really need a fusion of styles or some crossover between pop, rock, jazz, blues, funk, electronica, etc.

Would I want to meet Page? The Edge? Jack White? Probably not. Honestly, I guess in the end it boils down to me not being that big fans of them...I'd probably ask the Edge about the original ebow he used for the sustain on "With or Without You" or about the delay timing he uses for his effects. I like sounds like that as filler. I'm also really sick of guitar stuff. I taught myself for 5 years and invested heavily into it and I'm just on burnout from the whole thing and the whole atmosphere of guitarists. Now my heroes are pianists lol (of which Brian May, Eddie Van Halen, Eric Johnson, and Prince are also great at haha).

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I always seem to go back to the original blues, trying to imagine the stuff that Clapton and Harrison and Richards, etc. were hearing on the imported R&B records they were buying as youngsters from America to develop what would evolve into rock. But oddly enough, I never really enjoyed any of the actual 60s/70s nacsent rock developing or the real Page era. I sort of jump to the late 70s into prog rock, into glam rock, the early Police doing their reggae songs, late 70s Pink Floyd, Deep Purple, etc...but honestly. Never a fan of Led Zepplin at all (nor the Stones).
Fair enough, and to each their own. But Jimmy Page grew up in the same area that Eric Clapton and Jeff Beck did, and had many of the same influences. This is obvious in his work. Whole Lotta Love, How Many More Times, You Shook Me, I Can't Quit You Baby, and others are covers of those great blues musicians that have a heavier Page sound to it.

Again, in stating that there is a need for fusion between pop, rock, jazz, blues, funk, etc... Page incorporated all of those styles and more into all of his music from his time as a session musician, to his time in the Yardbirds and in Led Zeppelin.

To each their own, the greatest band in the world is the one that sounds the best to you (I think I made my choice pretty obvious).
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Not the best video (it's the same licks over and over again since it's an instructional video but standalone of him playing is rare).
I don't know much about guitar and bass (i drum) but I hear lots of people talk about Cliff like he is a legend.
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