I think the general rule of thumb is that a film doesn't turn a profit until its ticket sales double its budget. Wolverine is the only one that is even in the black, and was probably the closest to meeting expectations. Most studios would expect their movies to make back their budget domestically, and Watchment, and Terminator definitely didn't do that. Compare that to Star Trek, for example: $150 budget, $240 domestic. Terminator $200 budget, $119 domestic.
yes. in general, it is 2 - 2.5 times the budget. the 'budget' of the movie is just the cost of making the movie (talent, sets, pre/post production, etc). studios will spend about the same, sometimes more on marketing the movie. marketing generally includes print ads, radio, tv, copies of film (although most are digital transfers), press/PR...etc.
Okay, the best Michael Bay bashing of all time......love this part in Team America
I don't have a direct link to the part, but the Imaginationland episode of South Park was even better.
Military Guy: "Those aren't ideas, they're special effects." Michael Bay: "I ... don't understand the difference." Military Guy: <facepalm> Military Guy: "We know you don't ... Get him out of here!"
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No, the Transformers Live Action movie's continuity and story line has been well established now. It's been going on for what? Over two years now?
I'm unable to parse whether or not you're being serious. I saw the first movie, and continuity was one of its biggest flaws, and from the reviews of people who say "I had no idea what was going on", this one is apparently no better.
Whatever "continuity" means to you, I'm not sure, but usually there is a specific person who is charge of making sure of the correctness of both trivial details like: "if actor A is wearing hat X in scene Y, then he shouldn't be wearing hat M in scene Z if they are supposed to happen in sequence"; and larger issues such as "don't cut every scene with character D in it if the actions of other characters fail to make sense once he's gone". Michael Bay apparently has a crack-addled hobo do this for him.
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Whatever "continuity" means to you, I'm not sure, but usually there is a specific person who is charge of making sure of the correctness of both trivial details like: "if actor A is wearing hat X in scene Y, then he shouldn't be wearing hat M in scene Z if they are supposed to happen in sequence"; and larger issues such as "don't cut every scene with character D in it if the actions of other characters fail to make sense once he's gone". Michael Bay apparently has a crack-addled hobo do this for him.
Well, we're talking about different things. I thought you meant over-all story continuity. Now I feel sheepish
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Well, we're talking about different things. I thought you meant over-all story continuity. Now I feel sheepish
No worries, I was talking about one thing and you were totally off on Planet Crazy dancing to Rick Astley and popping magic jellybeans. Happens aaaalllllll the time.
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Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen midnight showings raked in $16 million in the U.S. It was $2.5 million shy of Dark Knight's record, although Dark Knight opened on a Friday. The IMAX totals surpased $1 million, which was better than Dark Knight's $675,000. Go Transformers!!! Let's break those box office records.
No worries, I was talking about one thing and you were totally off on Planet Crazy dancing to Rick Astley and popping magic jellybeans. Happens aaaalllllll the time.
See, now this just reeks of jealousy.
It's not my fault I get to travel to new worlds, and dance with rich small men with voices deeper than most black soul singers, and eat magic candy.
I just got back from seeing it, and enjoyed the frigging hell out of it.
Devastator was kind of anticlimactic, but I was really surprised that they went with the "original Transformers" plotline from the comics. I'm just glad Unicron wasn't anywhere to be seen.
Some stuff was a little weird, like most of the early scenes with the parents, the Terminator/Species knock-off girl that was after Sam, and the scenes where Megatron was referred to as an "apprentice".
But man, all that stuff is overshadowed by Soundwave. When I heard his voice, I'm sure I must have peed a little. Also very cool to see the Megatron/Starscream relationship a lot more like it traditionally has been.
I wondered if they were brave enough to keep Prime dead for the entire movie, and am actually a little disappointed that they didn't. But, better to bring him back within the same movie as opposed to waiting till the next movie to all of a sudden revive him.
So yeah, I loved it. But then I'm a gigantic Transformers mark and adored the first movie. I'm sure I'll go see it again while it's still in theatres.
I just saw it too. I enjoyed it, and the guys I went with absolutely loved it.
But I can tell why some would hate it. It's hard to follow, even for us diehard fans. Tough to know who's who and even who's fighting on which side. The story is kinda weak and in a lot of ways the parallel of the first movie.
But the action, the thrills, some of the comedic relief, the awesome sights, all good stuff. Lots of nods to old Transformer lore and lots of new additions to it all, some welcome, some not.
I thought Devastator was pretty damn cool.
I hated what they did with Megatron, he seemed so subservient to the Fallen. Megatron was always my favourite because he was the ultimate leader of the Decepticons. Anyone who challenged his authority was challenged right back. Even when it was Unicron. But there were some good examples of the Decepticons' infallible loyalty to him... save for Starscream, which of course can't be any other way.
Hated to see how effective human weapons have become against the robots. Takes away the feeling of awe when one is attacking.
For me, overall it was a good enjoyable movie. But I can completely see how the majority would be rolling their eyes for about 2.5 hours straight.
To the above poster: In actual canon, G1 Megatron was the most ineffective leader on screen >.>
Of course he was ineffective - the good guys had to win after all. That's not really what I said though... it was that he was unrelinquishing. I loved seeing him shoot down all the come-uppers. As I mention, in the cartoon movie he was even ready to fight Unicron when the chips were down.
Of course he was ineffective - the good guys had to win after all. That's not really what I said though... it was that he was unrelinquishing. I loved seeing him shoot down all the come-uppers. As I mention, in the cartoon movie he was even ready to fight Unicron when the chips were down.
G1 Galvatron: Conquered Cybertron at the start of season 4.
Beast Wars Megatron: Conquered Cybertron alone, with no help.
G1 Comic Galvatron: Conquered Earth, enslaved Rodimus' dead body.
Comic Quintessons: Destroyed Autobot City.
G1 Comic Shockwave: Beat Megatron to a pulp, took lead of the Decepticons, single handedly knocked every Autobot but Ratchet offline.
G1 Comic Starscream: Re: Underbase saga.
Jhiaxus and Liege Maximo: Decepticon Empire
Every other big baddie in the G1 Timeline accomplished something... except him.
I watched it this afternoon and was disappointed. I really like the first one and was super pumped about Transformers 2... it just didn't deliver. There was no cheering in the theatre I was in when credits roled.
