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Old 06-17-2009, 09:07 PM   #161
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If someone knows a site that can host a 396 MB PDF file, I will upload the Nutrition Guide there.
Yeah, I'm trying to send it to Oxygena by email but it's taking an awfully long time. I don't think I can send files that large over email. I have some of the other things as well if we can find a site to upload our stuff onto
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Old 06-17-2009, 09:08 PM   #162
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Do you guys recommend taking those pills? It just seems a little unnecessary. I still eat relatively healthy here and there...
I just take Centrum Forte multivitamins, and I think Costco has a Kirkland brand that is identical for a lot cheaper per pill. I think that is all I need, not sure if the athletic formula ones are any more effective.
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Old 06-17-2009, 09:16 PM   #163
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Do you guys recommend taking those pills? It just seems a little unnecessary. I still eat relatively healthy here and there...
I'm new to getting back into this, but from the Googling I've done on stuff I've bought or considered buying, I'd say the majority of those other supplements are bunk or even harmful. I think all you need is protein powder, a good multivitamin, and creatine.
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Old 06-17-2009, 09:17 PM   #164
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If someone knows a site that can host a 396 MB PDF file, I will upload the Nutrition Guide there.
Try compressing it first, there are some shareware tools out there that will do that.
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Old 06-17-2009, 09:24 PM   #165
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Try compressing it first, there are some shareware tools out there that will do that.
Tried WinZip, WinRar, and PDF Compress with no real shrink in file size. I think PDF files in general already use compressed images inside them.

I might be able to split the file, i'll try that at work tomorrow.
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Old 06-17-2009, 09:37 PM   #166
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ok, its way too freaking hard... I cant keep up
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Old 06-17-2009, 10:25 PM   #167
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ok, its way too freaking hard... I cant keep up

how far into the plan are you? the first few weeks is hard, but your body gets used to working out and it becomes a little easier.

are you using weights that are too heavy? keep the weights/bands manageable. and slow down on the cardio days.

keep at it, it will be worth your efforts.
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Old 06-18-2009, 12:17 AM   #168
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All protein powder tastes gross to me when I first use it.

After a while its alright.
I have a big bucket of unsweetened unflavoured protein powder that I blend with fruit and usually milk. I can't stand artificial sweeteners that most protein powders are sweetened with. This stuff doesn't really have a taste but it does give the smoothie a sticky consistency.

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Yep, that is the stuff I got at Costco as well, I think that it only comes in Decadent Chocolate flavor.
At my Costco they have it in a Vanilla flavour also.
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GTF: Do you know what this stuff is called and how much?

Also, is there a big difference between bands and weights?

And... I'm not too sure but they say to get a weight where you max out at 8 reps or so. First day I'm not feeling sore and I can do 8 reps, but my second day my arms are hurting and I can probably only do 4 reps. Am I to stick with the same weights all the time or do I switch on my second day to a lighter weight where I can hit 8 reps?
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GTF: Do you know what this stuff is called and how much?
It's Ultimate Nutrition Whey Sensation 81. I got it in a 3kg tub at Popeye's that I think was like $50-60 but I can't remember the price now.
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Old 06-18-2009, 01:41 AM   #171
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I don't have time to rifle through this whole thread...but for those of you on this program, are you casual drinkers? I'm a university student, and as you know, much of students' life involves consuming alcohol. I don't go crazy, but I would say 2 times a week at the very minimum I'm drinking.

Is that compatible with this program? I go to the gym regularly and am only really interested in 'tightening up'. I'm a pretty lean guy that has lost a bit of muscle in my weight loss, so I'm only really interested in putting about 5-10 pounds of muscle on. Any info would be helpful.

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Old 06-18-2009, 07:01 AM   #172
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I don't have time to rifle through this whole thread...but for those of you on this program, are you casual drinkers? I'm a university student, and as you know, much of students' life involves consuming alcohol. I don't go crazy, but I would say 2 times a week at the very minimum I'm drinking.

Is that compatible with this program? I go to the gym regularly and am only really interested in 'tightening up'. I'm a pretty lean guy that has lost a bit of muscle in my weight loss, so I'm only really interested in putting about 5-10 pounds of muscle on. Any info would be helpful.

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Like any exercise routine, if you cut out alcohol you will see better results, no doubt about it. It just comes down to what is more important to you. It doesn't mean not to do this program but it does mean that you results will be impacted and that you should keep that in mind.
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Old 06-18-2009, 07:04 AM   #173
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[quote=wooohooo;1891394]Also, is there a big difference between bands and weights?[quote]

I can try and answer this question for you. For the first month I was using the bands only however I felt I wasn't getting enough burn. I decided to purchase Powerblocks (5lbs-50lbs) and let me tell you, the workout was way tougher. I believe a lot of it has to do with the resistance going down with gravity pulling the weights. You don't really get this with the bands. I highly recommend using weights if you can but it isn't as friendly on the wallet.
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Old 06-18-2009, 07:55 AM   #174
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^ bands give you an constant pull force...ONLY if you pull in the direction of the band. if you pull to the side, you kinda 'cheat' on the pull force. stepping on the band is not as accurate as free weights. how do you know that 10 inches from handle is 15 pound? good thing is, they are cheap and portable, great for travel.

free weights you can also 'cheat' by jerking it. also a lot of room is needed to store free weights (unless you get something like powerblocks or selecteck) and very expensive.

both do the work and will get you results. like red sky, i recommend free weights if you can get them.
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I don't have time to rifle through this whole thread...but for those of you on this program, are you casual drinkers? I'm a university student, and as you know, much of students' life involves consuming alcohol. I don't go crazy, but I would say 2 times a week at the very minimum I'm drinking.

Is that compatible with this program? I go to the gym regularly and am only really interested in 'tightening up'. I'm a pretty lean guy that has lost a bit of muscle in my weight loss, so I'm only really interested in putting about 5-10 pounds of muscle on. Any info would be helpful.

Cheers.
I'm in university as well, I started the program for the first time about a year ago when I was drinking much more regularly. I started my second go at it about a month ago and I hardly drink at all, and the difference in results is very noticeable.

That all being said the program still worked the first time I did it but you'll definitely see better/quicker results if you cut down on your drinking. I know currently for me, when I do enjoy a drink with some buddies I usually stick with gin and water, which is a good low cal option. I think someone already mentioned it but the biggest problem with drinking is that you're much more likely to make crappy food choices while drunk. So when you do drink try to stick to a clear alcohol with a good mixer (no pop, tonic, etc) and try and use some will power and make good food choices (no wings, pizza, fast food, etc).
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Old 06-18-2009, 09:57 AM   #176
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alcohol, in general, is not good for your body. same can be said with most drugs and artificial stimuli.

not trying to preach, but better to put good stuff in your body. heck, i still eat a lot of junk food reason why i still have flab around my tummy
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alcohol, in general, is not good for your body.
Moderate amounts are generally thought to be beneficial. A beer is better for you then a pop.
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alcohol, in general, is not good for your body. same can be said with most drugs and artificial stimuli.

not trying to preach, but better to put good stuff in your body. heck, i still eat a lot of junk food reason why i still have flab around my tummy
A lot of things once considered unhealthy, they are finding, can be quite good for you in moderation. Examples being 1-2 glasses of red wine, dark chocolate, caffeine even. The trick is the moderation part.

Other things that used to be considered health food are maybe not so (canola oil, soy protein, carbs.)


EDIT: Guess I should have hit Refresh first. Ditto on GTF.
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Old 06-18-2009, 10:05 AM   #179
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Just FYI, superstore usually has the cheapest flavoured whey - choc, vanilla, strawberry. Its in the pharmacy section.

Canada Supplements is ok, but they only have free shipping over $100.
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Old 06-18-2009, 10:08 AM   #180
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It is quite possible to find deals on protein shakes, but it has gotten more expensive over the past few years.

I would recommend staying away from GNC though. Their prices are insane.

As for the free weights/bands difference. You will probably get similar results, but the free weights work the stabilizer muscles more. If anyone has done any squatting before, you would know the difference I'm talking about.

Squatting in a cage, versus squatting with a smith machine, the difference is insane.
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