06-17-2009, 10:06 AM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: calgary
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component cable quality
So based on our love of monoprice and hate on for monster cables, I understand that the high quality hdmi cables are not worth the money,
Is this the same for component cables? (only one hdmi input on my tv and I don't want to shell out the money for a receiver)
I would imagine that since it's still digital output compnonent cable quality would not matter as much, similar to HDMI,
Thoughts?
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06-17-2009, 10:19 AM
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Playboy Mansion Poolboy
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Close enough to make a beer run during a TV timeout
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Make sure the cables are thick- the ones at monoprice are. And by thick I mean the same thickness as a regular coax cable.
If you go into somewhere like Home Depot your will see the two types I mean; I have seen the thinner ones fail after a short period of time.
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06-17-2009, 10:44 AM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: calgary
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are the thin ones just RCA cables, like left right and video?
or are there specific thin and thick component cables?
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06-17-2009, 11:01 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Sadly not in the Dome.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ma-skis.com
So based on our love of monoprice and hate on for monster cables, I understand that the high quality hdmi cables are not worth the money,
Is this the same for component cables? (only one hdmi input on my tv and I don't want to shell out the money for a receiver)
I would imagine that since it's still digital output compnonent cable quality would not matter as much, similar to HDMI,
Thoughts?
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Component is an analog signal not digital. There is a digital component signal but it is typically only used in broadcast level gear.
Go for a RG-59 component cable or higher. The diameter is roughly a quarter of an inch thick. This should be very similar to what Shaw cable would run into your house or apartment.
Since component is still analog you will want the "thicker" cable to provide for better shielding especially if it is going to be a long run. They will still have RCA connectors on them...
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06-17-2009, 11:03 AM
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Franchise Player
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Clarify for us - are you wanting or not wanting to purchase your component cables from monoprice?
Component cables are not digital and I feel are more important to ensure you get high quality ones over an HDMI cable.
Bottom line - get monoprice cables.
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06-17-2009, 11:12 AM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: calgary
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I'm hoping to avoid to go to monoprice as I don't want to wait the 2-3 weeks, so I was thinking popping by superstore / walmart / anyplace that sells cables for less than $20
Didn't realize that component were analog signals. The distance is very short less than 3 feet, so I was hoping that would help me in terms of signal loss...
thats the problem with HDMI, now you need all these hdmi inputs too.
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06-17-2009, 11:23 AM
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Pants Tent
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Doesn't HD through component cables only get up to 720p? Or am I confused?
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06-17-2009, 11:52 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ma-skis.com
I'm hoping to avoid to go to monoprice as I don't want to wait the 2-3 weeks, so I was thinking popping by superstore / walmart / anyplace that sells cables for less than $20
Didn't realize that component were analog signals. The distance is very short less than 3 feet, so I was hoping that would help me in terms of signal loss...
thats the problem with HDMI, now you need all these hdmi inputs too.
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Monoprice has never taken that long - for me that is.
What size/type of TV is this for and what is the input source?
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06-17-2009, 03:34 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Madman
What size/type of TV is this for and what is the input source?
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It's from my shaw box, it's a 37 inch lcd, don't know the brand, but it's not awesome, but decent, the component cables will be coming from my shaw box, and I currently have an HDMI going from the upconverting dvd to the HDMI on my tv.
That's why I'm not too concerned about using hdmi cables, quality of tv isn't great to begin with.
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06-17-2009, 03:56 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Sadly not in the Dome.
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I haven't seen a great difference between HDMI and the component with regards to the Shaw cable box. Basically there is way to much compression on the signals to make the cable type worthwhile.
Component can do 1080 but what typically happens in consumer gear (see BluRay) is because of HDCP not having any affect on the analog signals they limit the RGB out of the players to 720 so a person cannot get a "true" replica of the original content.
Just get the cheap cables at London Drugs or what not. Just don't get the really small/thin ones that you would typically hook up your CD player with. Although 3 feet is nothing to worry about for shielding.
Get and amp that switches video.....Best damn thigs in the world.
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06-17-2009, 04:42 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: calgary
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ran to wal-mart to look at there cheapest cables, $20-30...
monoprice -$3.00
monoprice wins again.
guess i'm waiting the time for them to come in the mail
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06-17-2009, 04:55 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Medicine Hat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kipper is King
Doesn't HD through component cables only get up to 720p? Or am I confused?
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EDIT: Looks like Galakanokis already covered it.
ma-skis.com:
Yeah, monoprice.com usually wins.
Last edited by OBCT; 06-17-2009 at 04:58 PM.
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06-17-2009, 05:56 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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In the meantime you can try and get away with using composite, red, white,and yellow cables in the component interfaces. It worked for me once.
If you want to go all HDMI this switch should work.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
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06-17-2009, 08:00 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulcan
In the meantime you can try and get away with using composite, red, white,and yellow cables in the component interfaces. It worked for me once.
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That's a good idea, i'll give that a try
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Originally Posted by Vulcan
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I'm gonna skip that and wait till i can pop for a decent receiver.
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06-17-2009, 08:04 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Supporting Urban Sprawl
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kipper is King
Doesn't HD through component cables only get up to 720p? Or am I confused?
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About that, it isn't a strict line as I understand it. Really doesn't lose you anything unless you are using it from a true HD source. No broadcaster (except HD OTA) transmits in anything higher than 720p
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06-17-2009, 09:27 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rathji
About that, it isn't a strict line as I understand it. Really doesn't lose you anything unless you are using it from a true HD source. No broadcaster (except HD OTA) transmits in anything higher than 720p
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When they start releasing HD Content Protected (HDCP) Blu Ray titles, you will not be able to get anything above 720p off of the component out, but that is just to protect them from people copying disks in full HD (as there is nothing else they can do to enforce content protection on component video as it is analog.)
Anyway, as for the monoprice cables, I am a huge monoprice customer, but have to confess that I've had issues with a couple of the component video cables I've gotten from them, with plugs losing continuity. I'm guessing the internal solder points break easily.
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01-06-2010, 03:34 PM
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Voted for Kodos
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You could also try Princess Auto, if you don't want to wait for a monoprice cable. They have cables pretty cheap.
MacDaddy: Refresh Rate is standard at 30 frames per second, componant cables shouldn't have any problem with that.
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01-06-2010, 05:48 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Medicine Hat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MacDaddy77
Does having component cables effect my refresh rate?
I have my shaw cable box hooked up to my 46" 1080 tv (120mh) and I read somewhere that because component cables are anolog you don't get the proper refresh rate from your TV
I had some issues with my TV and since Shaw changed out my Rocketfish HDMI to component I haven't experiences the freezing.
My TV works good with the component cables but after reading the article I am wondering if I am not getting the full benifit of my TV's abilities.
Thanks,
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Nope, the type of cable you use shouldn't (won't) affect signal refresh rate whatsoever. I'm not sure that a damaged cable could even affect refresh rate (without otherwise compromising the signal beyond recognition).
For what it's worth, the probable reason why switching from HDMI to component decreased problems is because of an infamous 'handshake' error between devices at some point in the HDMI chain.
Unless you can personally differentiate between the picture "quality" produced by the HDMI connection chain and the component video connection chain, then you're safe to assume that what you're seeing now w/ component is just as good as what you were seeing with HDMI ... since it more than likely is.
Component cables are entirely capable of transferring a 1080p full HD video signal.
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01-06-2010, 06:30 PM
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First Line Centre
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Thanks for the replies!
Glad to know I'm getting the full quality of my TV
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