Zeitgeist, 9/11, and Other Conspiracies

[peter12]

Yeah, I've had some experience at least being in attendance and observing some of these high level meetings with all those that control the free world deciding the fate of billions of people. I've been to the Bilderberg thing once and Civitas (Canada's black helicopter group) three times and let me tell you... the guys in those rooms are not high level and they control nothing except for the words that come out of their mouths.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by peter12

Is this a joke?

No...........I know there are holes in Alex Jones material.
But like I said about Zeitgeist was I cannot support the religious portion because I dont know anything about religion to begin with.
I do however believe in the Bilderberg Group and the massive problems that central banks, mostly the U.S. Federal Reserve create.

Here, the UK gov. admits to spraying the population with chemicals without their knowledge.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Ar...398507,00.html

[Azure]

The government is by definition to stupid to organize anything resembling 'control' over a population that has been free this long.

They might want to centralize more power, which is what Obama is trying to do.....but to take away rights and freedoms? Never going to happen.

90% of the population would probably stand up and fight for the right to be free. Which government can stop that kind of uprising?

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Azure

I'm just saying you are mistaken to believe that Lincoln is one of the founding fathers.

The thing about the civil war is a shot at all the people who think it was just about the slavery, and ignore the bigger part....states rights.

I know Lincoln came later...........but he is an important figure regardless.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

No...........I know there are holes in Alex Jones material.
But like I said about Zeitgeist was I cannot support the religious portion because I dont know anything about religion to begin with.
I do however believe in the Bilderberg Group and the massive problems that central banks, mostly the U.S. Federal Reserve create.

Here, the UK gov. admits to spraying the population with chemicals without their knowledge.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Ar...398507,00.html

I was commenting more on the irony of a complete paranoid like yourself calling the Alex Jones' acolytes, "pretty paranoid."

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by peter12

Yeah, I've had some experience at least being in attendance and observing some of these high level meetings with all those that control the free world deciding the fate of billions of people. I've been to the Bilderberg thing once and Civitas (Canada's black helicopter group) three times and let me tell you... the guys in those rooms are not high level and they control nothing except for the words that come out of their mouths.

You have not been to a Bilderberg meeting.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Obama and Homeland Security will/are looking for excuses to control guns in the U.S. Terrorism and the Mexican border drug war are among those excuses. Fortunately, Americans are at least smart enough to realize that their guns are not what is causing the blood shed at the border, like how ridiculous.

Big changes like that don't happen overnight......
These big bank owners and members of the Bilderberg Group have been working at pushing their agenda for decades....

Yeah but assault weapons were already banned at one point in the 90s. Why would the secret powers that be let Bush/Republicans repeal the ban?

Now if you are arguing that the Democrats and Obama want to limit gun ownership than I can see where you are coming from. Depending on whose in power at any given time Republicans vs. Democrats, Alex Jones' stories change to meet what that regime is doing. If there were a secret force behind all this wouldn't the story be consistent no matter who was in charge?

[peter12]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

You have not been to a Bilderberg meeting.

Yes, I have. These things aren't the crazy hidden agenda deal people make them out to be.

EDIT: Let me clarify, I haven't been behind any of the close door meetings, but I know people quite well who have. It's an opportunity for political leaders to get together and compare notes. That's about it.

[RougeUnderoos]

The funny thing is that if any of this were true, we wouldn't know any of it.

If some shadowy group of bigshots were really controlling the world, spraying us with poison, rigging the Pepsi challenge, killing Kennedy and plotting 9/11, would they let some guys on the internet publicly broadcast all their secrets?

[peter12]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

The funny thing is that if any of this were true, we wouldn't know any of it.

If some shadowy group of bigshots were really controlling the world, spraying us with poison, rigging the Pepsi challenge, killing Kennedy and plotting 9/11, would they let some guys on the internet publicly broadcast all their secrets?

No, they wouldn't.

The thing is if you had some inside knowledge on how the US government, one of the most purportedly free and representative governments in the world, was secretly testing weapons, initiating attacks etc... on its citizens, wouldn't you be living in a bunker somewhere in Yellowstone Park? Jeez, I know I'd be too scared even to go out my front door, let alone broadcast my big mouth (Alex Jones has a big mouth) all over the Internet.

[photon]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

The funny thing is that if any of this were true, we wouldn't know any of it.

If some shadowy group of bigshots were really controlling the world, spraying us with poison, rigging the Pepsi challenge, killing Kennedy and plotting 9/11, would they let some guys on the internet publicly broadcast all their secrets?

No, they wouldn't.

That's what they want you to think! But a bunch of people who can't even get a simple concentration measurement right to within a few degrees of magnitude are just enough to crack the whole thing wide open!

You can choose to be free, or you can chose to live a lie.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by fotze

Havign worked for the government its hilarious anyone actually believes that they are capable, willing and would have any sort of motivation for any conspiracy. Why would anyone want to keep hush hush, for $39k per year? So you can keep your crappy soul-destroying job? not bloody likely. For 5 bucks I would spill the beans of any sort of conspiracy that I had heard of. Thats if anyone there would have the competency to pull something like that off. Fataing amazing if a phone call gets forwarded to the right person let alone what is implied here.

Have you even seen the movie or read any material here at all?

Its not "the whole government" that is holding a conspiracy. God........you think every pee-on knows what going on? Hell no!
The people that know what is going on are the Bilderberg members(of which there are 120-150 world wide, the Trilateral Commission members, and the guys behind the Fed.
Some of these guys hold key positions in the government and they manipulate through this.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by peter12

I was commenting more on the irony of a complete paranoid like yourself calling the Alex Jones' acolytes, "pretty paranoid."

I dont post comments on the site. In fact I dont even know what half of them are talking about. Some of them appear to be teenagers.......

[Tower]

Originally Posted by Azure

The government is by definition to stupid to organize anything resembling 'control' over a population that has been free this long.

They might want to centralize more power, which is what Obama is trying to do.....but to take away rights and freedoms? Never going to happen.

90% of the population would probably stand up and fight for the right to be free. Which government can stop that kind of uprising?

Fear. Make the population too scared so they will think you are protecting them. Once you have that you can take away those rights and the population will thank you for doing them a service.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Have you even seen the movie or read any material here at all?

I don't remember you going off about this conspiracy stuff before. Have you held these beliefs for long? I kinda get the impression that you came across "infowars" and watched that movie and believed every single word of it.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by peter12

Yes, I have. These things aren't the crazy hidden agenda deal people make them out to be.

EDIT: Let me clarify, I haven't been behind any of the close door meetings, but I know people quite well who have. It's an opportunity for political leaders to get together and compare notes. That's about it.

Exactly, you HAVE NOT been in a Bilderberg meeting......wow you know some pretty high ups dont you? And only certain political leaders make up a small portion of the Bilderberg Group.
Why are there no published reports on Bilderberg meetings or the topics they discuss?

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by Tower

Fear. Make the population too scared so they will think you are protecting them. Once you have that you can take away those rights and the population will thank you for doing them a service.

Well when are we going to scared enough? Because this is taking forever. Let's get it over with already. I want to become V.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Exactly, you HAVE NOT been in a Bilderberg meeting......wow you know some pretty high ups dont you? And only certain political leaders make up a small portion of the Bilderberg Group.
Why are there no published reports on Bilderberg meetings or the topics they discuss?

Yeah Mrs. Bill Gates went to one. I can see her now twirling her sinister moustache while devising a way to enslave us all, while all the while giving billions to starving Africans.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Here are a few articles on the Bilderberg Group.

http://www.infowars.com/bilderberg-w...obal-treasury/

http://www.infowars.com/daniel-estul...-planning-now/
I plan on reading this book.

http://www.infowars.com/the-bilderbe...tical-economy/
I guess we will see if some of this comes to fruition.


and this one is interesting.......why would these business guys be concerned about population control? Bill Gates was there along with Ted Turner, Rockefeller etc.
http://www.infowars.com/secretive-ri...ation-control/

[FlamingLonghorn]

I just love how people find it's weird that the richest, most influential people come together to talk about how to solve the world's problems. I am glad they do because they are generally the best and brightest people in the world thus their status. If they are secretly trying to control the world, than I am glad it's them and not Alex Jones and his crew of morons.