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GreenTeaFrapp · 06-11-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

So by your logic, I'm a nobody in the grand scheme of things. Someone who's stunningly average, doesn't have a great deal of power. So it would be more fun to sleep with me then play mind games with me by saying no.

And probably even more fun in nine months when she's looking for child support!

Deelow · 06-11-2009, 02:43 PM

About a year ago I got out of a long term relationship and started reading that book "The Game", entertaining if nothing else, I made it about halfway through and started seeing some results...then I quit reading. Almost like the gym or a diet or something...wouldn't you know I'm in friend-zone again. Is it really friend-zone if you get to play with boobs though? I know it's some friend-zone hybrid and I don't like it...maybe I should finish reading that book?

mikey_the_redneck · 06-11-2009, 02:44 PM

The thing with being a "nice guy" is that women view that as a form of manipulation...........they know the guy is putting on an act to try to "get something" from her.
Nice guy = un-masculine and this is why women don't respond to it.

Unfortunately our culture gears guys towards being "nice guys" so their natural attractiveness gets watered down significantly. How many times have you heard your mom/sisters telling you to be nice to girls and bring them flowers and all that crap!

And dont get me started on romantic comedies that are so popular.......Guys.......life is not a romantic comedy. Do not ever act like a needy wuss like the guys on those movies, that crap doesnt work in real life.

malcolmk14 · 06-11-2009, 02:46 PM

Meh, The Game doesn't hurt. Strauss just does a really good job of making it seem really easy for the average guy.

If anything, it's a confidence booster. Really makes you see how easy it is if you do the right things. It's not gonna change you into a regular casanova or anything though.

If you haven't read it, it's a good read either way.

Hack&Lube · 06-11-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Deelow

wouldn't you know I'm in friend-zone again. Is it really friend-zone if you get to play with boobs though? I know it's some friend-zone hybrid and I don't like it...maybe I should finish reading that book?

You're in the friend with benefits zone which is stratospherically levels or universes higher in order and scale than the strictly friend zone.

Sainters7 · 06-11-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Deelow

About a year ago I got out of a long term relationship and started reading that book "The Game", entertaining if nothing else, I made it about halfway through and started seeing some results...then I quit reading. Almost like the gym or a diet or something...wouldn't you know I'm in friend-zone again. Is it really friend-zone if you get to play with boobs though? I know it's some friend-zone hybrid and I don't like it...maybe I should finish reading that book?

Another good book I remember from back in the day was "Diamond Player". My buddy's older bro had it laying around, I remember flippin through it when I was about 17 or so. I can't remember alot of it, but that's around the time I started developing a little game. I'd be interested to read it again(haha though my girlfriend would probably kill me if she found it laying around).

mikey_the_redneck · 06-11-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Deelow

About a year ago I got out of a long term relationship and started reading that book "The Game", entertaining if nothing else, I made it about halfway through and started seeing some results...then I quit reading. Almost like the gym or a diet or something...wouldn't you know I'm in friend-zone again. Is it really friend-zone if you get to play with boobs though? I know it's some friend-zone hybrid and I don't like it...maybe I should finish reading that book?

The book "The Game" is based on creating attraction from routines and conversation, but the problem is if you have bad beliefs or self image this stuff does not work because it is not congruent with your personality, so women see right through it.
The trick is to get your "inner-game" together..............and the rest comes naturally. If you have the right attitude and beliefs........PM me if you want some good sources for this stuff.

missdpuck · 06-11-2009, 02:48 PM

Girls get put in the friend zone too. Just a different kind of "friend".

Rerun · 06-11-2009, 02:48 PM

Nothing wrong with being a friend...

..... as long as its FWB (friends with benefits)...

Sainters7 · 06-11-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by missdpuck

Girls get put in the friend zone too. Just a different kind of "friend".

That's usually what happens when you put out on the first date. I've got a female friend like that. She can't understand why she can't get a boyfriend. Yet every time she has a date, she pounds him the first night. Then he never calls her again, until he's like drunk at the club at 1am or something. I've told her time and again not to do it, but she keeps doing it. I have no sympathy for her anymore.

Cliche · 06-11-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Deelow

About a year ago I got out of a long term relationship and started reading that book "The Game", entertaining if nothing else, I made it about halfway through and started seeing some results...then I quit reading. Almost like the gym or a diet or something...wouldn't you know I'm in friend-zone again. Is it really friend-zone if you get to play with boobs though? I know it's some friend-zone hybrid and I don't like it...maybe I should finish reading that book?

It should only be important to re-evaluate your viewpoint of the opposite sex as people. They are less than what they are, and more than what you think.

Also you're probably breaking one of the rules of "The Game" by just having one, instead of the hopper.

CaptainCrunch · 06-11-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

And probably even more fun in nine months when she's looking for child support!

Then she'd better name that kid houdini, because he's gotta crawl through 20 miles of freezing water, find the right toilet, bust out of its rubber prison and impregnate her.

If that kid manages to be born after that, I'm writing him a monster check because when he or she turns 20, with those kinda gifts, Daddies gettin pay ayed

mikey_the_redneck · 06-11-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sainters7

That's usually what happens when you put out on the first date. I've got a female friend like that. She can't understand why she can't get a boyfriend. Yet every time she has a date, she pounds him the first night. Then he never calls her again, until he's like drunk at the club at 1am or something. I've told her time and again not to do it, but she keeps doing it. I have no sympathy for her anymore.

Yeah there is no challenge there and a man percieves that sub-consciously as a lack of self respect on her part...............and subsequently his respect for her becomes lowered.

Rerun · 06-11-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

You're in the friend with benefits zone which is stratospherically levels or universes higher in order and scale than the strictly friend zone.

I would say he was in the FWLB zone. (Friends with limited benefits). Frankly I'd rather not be in that zone. Blue balls are a b*tch.

EddyBeers · 06-11-2009, 02:52 PM

What women want can be explained by science

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...ost-girls.html

"The traits are the self-obsession of narcissism; the impulsive, thrill-seeking and callous behaviour of psychopaths; and the deceitful and exploitative nature of Machiavellianism.....The study found that those who scored higher on the dark triad personality traits tended to have more partners and more desire for short-term relationships"

"This observation seems to hold across cultures. David Schmitt of Bradley University in Peoria, Illinois, presented preliminary results at the same meeting from a survey of more than 35,000 people in 57 countries. He found a similar link between the dark triad and reproductive success in men."

So, if you want to have reproductive success with women, combine those three most desirable qualities: 1) self-obsessed narcissism, 2) the callous behaviour of psychopaths and 3) the deceitful and exploitative nature of Machiavellianism.

CaptainCrunch · 06-11-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

The thing with being a "nice guy" is that women view that as a form of manipulation...........they know the guy is putting on an act to try to "get something" from her.
Nice guy = un-masculine and this is why women don't respond to it.

Unfortunately our culture gears guys towards being "nice guys" so their natural attractiveness gets watered down significantly. How many times have you heard your mom/sisters telling you to be nice to girls and bring them flowers and all that crap!

And dont get me started on romantic comedies that are so popular.......Guys.......life is not a romantic comedy. Do not ever act like a needy wuss like the guys on those movies, that crap doesnt work in real life.

Thats right damn it, on the first date you need to ring her doorbell with your johnson, when she answers the door you have to give her a light face slap then tell her to get in the damn car.

mikey_the_redneck · 06-11-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by missdpuck

Yeah but Tom Brady is Tom Brady. It al depends on what you mean by "nice", or whether you're looking for one night or a relationship. It all boils down to the fact that you can't make someone be attracted to you !

So true...............attraction is not a choice we make.........

malcolmk14 · 06-11-2009, 02:56 PM

Friends with Benefits is a good position to be in for a guy. In most cases, it indicates that you can do better and the woman knows it, but consents to FWB anyway because it gives her something to do until she finds someone that is more on par with her in the attractiveness category.

missdpuck · 06-11-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Then she'd better name that kid houdini, because he's gotta crawl through 20 miles of freezing water, find the right toilet, bust out of its rubber prison and impregnate her.

If that kid manages to be born after that, I'm writing him a monster check because when he or she turns 20, with those kinda gifts, Daddies gettin pay ayed

Wow. Just wow.

Got Miikka? · 06-11-2009, 03:12 PM

Mr. Nice Guy = Wussy with a capital 'P'. Too eager to please, obviously insecure.

Being 'nice' or a dick isn't the issue... it's confidence. You can be however you want, just believe in it and don't second guess yourself and you'll be fine. If you want to buy into the whole ######bag concept and do it wholeheartedly, you will have success meeting women. Conversely, you can be friendly and accomodating without being a big pushover and you'll also do well; heck, you might even do better than the guy with the frosted tips and the ######bag-neck t-shirt and steroid arms. It's all about being cool with what you're putting out there.

And, yeah, there is also a dynamic that can be reduced to, simply, attraction - which is to say, people are attracted to people for all sorts of reasons; shallow, deep, logical, illogical. So, it's possible you could exude confidence and still not get the girl you want, but don't sweat it... it's not your fault she's not into you, it's just attraction. Maybe she's a stupid bitch, anyway - you lucked out.

Confidence is key... the rest is out of your hands, so it's probably not worth worrying over.