Back yard fire pits

[Boblobla]

A HUGE no from me on banning the fire pit.

[flip]

Originally Posted by DESS

Interesting to see that three other people have voted for an all out ban, but the loud-mouth majority at CP has bullied them into keeping their mouth shut in the forum. I would like to hear an opinion of somebody opposed to backyard firepits, since there are obviously others who share my view.

I'm also lauging at the post re: just talk to your neighbour if you have a problem. My neighbours are of the F-U variety, so I don't even bother anymore. 311 and my problem is solved.

I actually only like fire pits if I'm the one benefiting from them. When all I get is a house that smells like crap and clothes that smell like crap, without any of the drinking, partying, roasting marshmellows and heat, then yes I'm against them.

However, and this is a big issue lately, I absolutely HATE HATE HATE people that think their stupid little freak kids deserve special treatment just because of their disorder. Allergic to peanuts? Great then deal with it. Not my problem to avoid peanuts before I take a plane just in case one got caught in my beard and you die from it. Allergic to scents? Great but a friggin bubble and deal with it, otherwise shut up.

So, do I always like fire pits? No, but I'm responsible and adult enough to know that you can't always have your way. Or at least that complaining about it isn't always the best way to go. That and I don't want to be a hypocrite. For everything that someone else does that I don't like, such as their little noisy kids, fire pits, cutting their lawn at 8am, I'm sure I also do things they don't like, such as listening to my music REALLY loud, smoking pot on my deck, partying late, having a fire pit etc. In the end it all evens out.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by flip

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so, do i always like fire pits? No, but i'm responsible and adult enough to know that you can't always have your way. Or at least that complaining about it isn't always the best way to go. That and i don't want to be a hypocrite. for everything that someone else does that i don't like, such as their little noisy kids, fire pits, cutting their lawn at 8am, i'm sure i also do things they don't like, such as listening to my music really loud, smoking pot on my deck, partying late, having a fire pit etc. In the end it all evens out.

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[Dion]

Originally Posted by Methanolic

The person with the respiratory illness needs to speak to the neighbour and make them aware of the situation. They could even go so far as to let the neighbour know when they will be away from the home for an extended period and maybe the neighbour would take advantage and enjoy a nice back yard weiner roast or what ever.

Chances are the neighbour would say close your doors and windows or maybe move if it bothers you so much. People aren't going to stop using their fire pits because someone has respiratory problem. It would be like telling a smoker where he can't smoke. It would most likey create friction between neighbours.

[flip]

Originally Posted by flameswin

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It was intentional, I assure you. Like I said, when I benefit they are great and people should stop being aholes and complaining.

When it is smoking up my clothes and I'm sitting inside watching a movie then they are a nuisance and need to be banned.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by flip

It was intentional, I assure you. Like I said, when I benefit they are great and people should stop being aholes and complaining.

When it is smoking up my clothes and I'm sitting inside watching a movie then they are a nuisance and need to be banned.

I know it was intentional, that's why I put the winky face, which apparantly didn't post correctly.

[IronDave]

I built my girl a fire pit last year for her party and at 11pm a pumper truck and 1-2 squad cars showed up based on a call that a "garage fire was in progress". The firefighters were beauty and they couldn't believe our fire pit prompted a full blown response. We were told that we were completely legal and could continue fire pitting till one... but then the cops told us to put it out, I guess the police know best when it comes to fire related matters...

Long story short the N.W has a very interesting mix of university students and mean old "311/911 trigger happy" people.

[Peanut]

I'm not opposed to the smoke really at all, more the noise bothers me if I'm trying to sleep. So if my neighbours want to enjoy their fire-pit it's fine by me, as long as they turn down the music and the drunken voices around 11pm.

I return the courtesy when we use our firepit.

[Methanolic]

Originally Posted by DESS

Interesting to see that three other people have voted for an all out ban, but the loud-mouth majority at CP has bullied them into keeping their mouth shut in the forum.


So, Suddenly the CP Community is "scared" by poll results? So scared that they don't dare chime in with their opinion? Wow! This place has really changed, almost overnight.


I'm also lauging at the post re: just talk to your neighbour if you have a problem. My neighbours are of the F-U variety, so I don't even bother anymore. 311 and my problem is solved.

Too bad for you having an Ahole neighbour. So your advice is to Never try communicating first but instead immeadiately get authorities involved?

[Methanolic]

Originally Posted by Dion

Chances are the neighbour would say close your doors and windows or maybe move if it bothers you so much. People aren't going to stop using their fire pits because someone has respiratory problem. It would be like telling a smoker where he can't smoke. It would most likey create friction between neighbours.

They DO! tell smokers where they can and can't smoke.

If my neighbour came to me with concerns re: respiratory Illness, I would behave like an extremist radical and have a chat with them to see if we could work something out.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Methanolic

They DO! tell smokers where they can and can't smoke.

If my neighbour came to me with concerns re: respiratory Illness, I would behave like an extremist radical and have a chat with them to see if we could work something out.

Glad to hear you'd be willing to work something out. Just not sure there would be a lot of you out there. People tend to be standoffish when it comes to telling them what they can or can not do on thier own property.

[Locke]

Why does everything have to be regulated? Do we really need the city to step in and regulate absolutely every aspect of our lives? No, dont ban firepits, no dont initiate a licensing policy, let people do what they want, if the neighbors have a problem then we as people should be able to negotiate a mutually acceptable arrangement.

I've had trouble with one neighbor regarding my backyard firepit, we simply talked about it the next morning, I asked what his complaints were and we just agreed to terms that both of us could accept.

People should be able to resolve minor disputes amongst one another like adults rather than needing their 'Daddy' Bronco to set the house rules because they're too busy squabbling like children.

[monkeyman]

Dess, you seem like your a hard guy to get along with, you want to ban dogs, you call 311 on your neighbours... are you sure its not you who is the fu type and not your neighbour?

[Methanolic]

Originally Posted by Dion

Glad to hear you'd be willing to work something out. Just not sure there would be a lot of you out there. People tend to be standoffish when it comes to telling them what they can or can not do on thier own property.

you may be right about people being standoffish, Perhaps it's a societal thing, Like a previous poster said, People now know that if they whine loud enough, those in charge will take care of them. Maybe that's why they refuse to communicate directly and go running to tell "Nanny" instead.

[Methanolic]

Originally Posted by Locke

Why does everything have to be regulated? Do we really need the city to step in and regulate absolutely every aspect of our lives? No, dont ban firepits, no dont initiate a licensing policy, let people do what they want, if the neighbors have a problem then we as people should be able to negotiate a mutually acceptable arrangement.

I've had trouble with one neighbor regarding my backyard firepit, we simply talked about it the next morning, I asked what his complaints were and we just agreed to terms that both of us could accept.

People should be able to resolve minor disputes amongst one another like adults rather than needing their 'Daddy' Bronco to set the house rules because they're too busy squabbling like children.

I agree 100% with every word.


Very well said too.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Methanolic

you may be right about people being standoffish, Perhaps it's a societal thing, Like a previous poster said, People now know that if they whine loud enough, those in charge will take care of them. Maybe that's why they refuse to communicate directly and go running to tell "Nanny" instead.

I personaly think it's the fear of that dreaded confrontation that causes people to call 311. Mind you calling 311 can create bigger problems too.

That said i agree that neighbours should talk out thier beefs before getting the city involved.

[DESS]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

Dess, you seem like your a hard guy to get along with, you want to ban dogs, you call 311 on your neighbours... are you sure its not you who is the fu type and not your neighbour?

I can see why you would say that but I actually have super lame neighbours. One one side, they wouldn't pay 50% for a fence between our yards and they were too lazy to sod their dirt. After a couple of years looking at their mess of a yard I finally just paid for a fence myself. I also sodded their strip of grass that borders my house and put rocks between our houses. On the other side is a single mom - I shovel her driveway, change lightbulbs, etc. In other words, I'm a good neighbour.

What I don't appreciate and completely reject are neighbours who are inconsiderate of everybody else in the neighbourhood. That includes barking dogs, dog crap that isn't picked up and fires in the city.

[DESS]

Just one clarification - the single mom is a cool neighbour. It's the other guys that I hate as well as some other fracknuts around me.

[Tower]

Originally Posted by Methanolic

Again, because of the gradual conditioning, Many of us beleive that we can not take care of ourselves, But rather the City must take care of us.

The person with the respiratory illness needs to speak to the neighbour and make them aware of the situation. They could even go so far as to let the neighbour know when they will be away from the home for an extended period and maybe the neighbour would take advantage and enjoy a nice back yard weiner roast or what ever.

Obviously, If that doesn't solve the problem, that's when you get bylaw services involved, Not before an attempt at a simple communication.








Last year my neighbours motion light was shining almost right into our eyes in the evening. I went and made him aware, within minutes he was up on a ladder and tilted the light down.


2 years ago I was draining my daughters little pool in the back yard, Someone across the lane saw water running down the alley and called 311. Just as I was finishing and rinseing it out with a hose, A full on Fire Engine with a full crew and the station cheif in an suv were banging at my gate. The person that called said i was dumping chemicals, the pool was filled directly from my hose bib and no chems were ever put into it. All this could have been avoided had this person just come over and let me know they were concerned and all would have been easily explained.


last weekend we had people over for a bbq, we had a radio on, although I didn't think it was too loud, around 10:00PM a new neighbour came to my back gate and told me his 10 month old daughter was having trouble sleeping and he thought it might be the music. I told him I'd turn it right down and to let me know if it continued to be a problem. All was resolved without the need for any assistance by the City. Amazing!

Keep the City out your business people! We are Not Infants. We Can take care of ourselves!

Careful.... You are bordering Freeman movements here...

[Tower]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

Who is that character?