Randy Johnson wins his 300th game. Quite an elite club - arguably more difficult to reach than than 3000 hits, 3000 Ks, 500 HR, etc...
ESPN.com has a poll up asking who has the best chance of becoming the next 300 game winner:
Roy Halladay (32 years old; 140 career wins)
Roy Oswalt (31 years old; 131 career wins)
CC Sabathia (28 years old; 128 career wins)
Johan Santana (30 years old; 116 career wins)
No one.
I picked Sabathia because (a) he's the youngest and (b) the Yankees are going to spend money for the foreseeable future to win games - therefore CC's on the best team to give him a chance. 44% percent of voters agreed with me with 30% saying no one. 13% said Halladay.
If Halladay finishes this year with 20 wins (reasonable) he'll have roughly 151 career. If he pitches until he's 41 he'll have to average 16.5 wins over the next 9 seasons.
None of those guys will make it. Once guys hit 35, how many are able to consistenly win 20 a year? Halladay is a horse, but even he can't keep that pace up.
Sabathia has a shot because he should get to the 165 mark by the time he's 30. But outside of him, I think we might have just seen the last 300 career game winner until the do something about pitch counts and limiting innings.
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The more I think about the math, the less I think anyone will do it. CC would still be my bet, just because he plays for the Yankees and they consistently win 85-95+ games a year.
I think in the highlights, I saw that Johnson has won the most games after the age of 35 than anyone and he's the second oldest 300 game winner in history.
With 300 games looking to be more impossible to reach, one wonders what the new measuring stick will be for pitchers for the HOF. The numbers just aren't going to be that high for new candidates (after the likes of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, etc.. get inducted).
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I got this chart from another board. It lists the pitchers who have won at least 300 games since WWII. The creator also listed the 20 something pitchers who he thought had a shot at 300 in the future. One interesting thing was that Randy Johnson had 37 wins at the age of 27. CC has 117 (before the start of the season). If he stays healthy he could have a shot. Since he is on the same pace as Roger Clemons for his carrer.
I don't really respect Rios after this. The kid wanted an autograph who Rios blew off than starts swearing? Meh, crappy player and a crappier person.
Pretty good line there by the fan. "The way you played today Alex you should [feel] lucky somebody wants your autograph."
Personally I can't stand the guy but I don't think he'll be going anywhere. Toronto opened their wallets to the wrong players. How the heck does J.P still have a job? How many years now has he wasted the owners money delivering the exact same mediocre results.
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Pretty good line there by the fan. "The way you played today Alex you should [feel] lucky somebody wants your autograph."
Personally I can't stand the guy but I don't think he'll be going anywhere. Toronto opened their wallets to the wrong players. How the heck does J.P still have a job? How many years now has he wasted the owners money delivering the exact same mediocre results.
The Jays need to move the guy for 50 cents on the dollar if they can, but pretty unlikely with that contract. I can't stand Rios, and I imagine the only reason he's still hitting third is to somehow showcase that he could be a third place hitter somewhere else.
I don't like Rios much anymore either, but some of these hounds are out to piss players off. OK, so he didn't want to sign the kids card or whatever. Why does the adult feel the need to scold him and talk crap? And the trashy kid trying to get his two cents in? Bums all around.
Pretty good line there by the fan. "The way you played today Alex you should [feel] lucky somebody wants your autograph."
Personally I can't stand the guy but I don't think he'll be going anywhere. Toronto opened their wallets to the wrong players. How the heck does J.P still have a job? How many years now has he wasted the owners money delivering the exact same mediocre results.
Because it's not the NHL and making the playoffs in baseball is much, much harder.
85 win seasons in the MLB are not mediocre. They're not great either, but if you put the Jays in a different division they'd have found a way into the playoffs one of the last few years.
Because it's not the NHL and making the playoffs in baseball is much, much harder.
85 win seasons in the MLB are not mediocre. They're not great either, but if you put the Jays in a different division they'd have found a way into the playoffs one of the last few years.
The Jays have only twice finished ahead of a division winner and both times there were teams in the American league that were ahead of them that also didn't make the play-offs.
I am not sure playing in the AL East is really hurting the Jays so much that they would raise their win total by 8-10 games necessary to make the play-offs.
J.P. hasn't been awful but the Jays haven't made the play-offs because of their lack of talent not because of the division that they play in.
