06-05-2006, 11:11 PM
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#121
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by Vulcan
I think you have a basic problem grasping this subject. I've said much the same and agree with what Captain Crunch just posted.
To deny that our entry into Afghanistan hasn't increased our chances of being a target by the El Queda is more than foolishness. Of course the El Queda brought this on themselves by bombing the USA.
The part about sacrifice doesn't deserve an answer. You don't know me.
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I know you like to talk about how it is our fault that these threats are made, found and dealt with. Funny thing is, you don't agree with, according to you, effectivaly solving that problem. That would be by pulling out of Afghanistan.
My idea? These people hate us for our freedom. Afghanistan has jack-**** to do with what happened in Toronto. There are many terrorists throughout the world, some of them have no connection at all to Afghanistan. Whether or not we would be in Afghanistan right now, these people would feel the same way about us.
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06-05-2006, 11:56 PM
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#122
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Originally Posted by Lanny_MacDonald
Get them while they are young, impressionable, and susceptable to hate. Mold them as you wish through an education filled with half truths and lies, and they will turn into the soldiers you need.
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They are brainwashing 8 year old boys and girls in Palestine. They were doing in the same in my home town in Syria. Same thing that the Nazi's did in Germany.
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06-06-2006, 12:38 AM
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#123
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Originally Posted by Azure
I know you like to talk about how it is our fault that these threats are made, found and dealt with. Funny thing is, you don't agree with, according to you, effectivaly solving that problem. That would be by pulling out of Afghanistan.
My idea? These people hate us for our freedom. Afghanistan has jack-**** to do with what happened in Toronto. There are many terrorists throughout the world, some of them have no connection at all to Afghanistan. Whether or not we would be in Afghanistan right now, these people would feel the same way about us.
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The Americans and the British have been playing fast and loose in the Middle East for years and yeh, they are reaping what they have sown. I believe Canada has been pretty much innocent in these goings on though. When you refer to 'our', who are you refering to, the USA or Canada? I like to think we are separate nations, with often different goals. You seem to have a hard time with that one and in typical American fashion can't see the Canadian view. My ideas on this subject aren't 'funny', you just have a hard time grasping them. Maybe I'm not clear enough, but I've been trying to lead you through the maze.
Your second paragraph shows your hate and you've been brainwashed and there is no point in continuing this conversation.
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06-06-2006, 12:41 AM
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#124
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Clinching Party
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Originally Posted by Azure
My idea? These people hate us for our freedom.
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That's not your idea. You probably shouldn't try to take credit for it because that idea doesn't make sense.
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06-06-2006, 12:55 AM
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#125
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Join Date: Dec 2003
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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
That's not your idea. You probably shouldn't try to take credit for it because that idea doesn't make sense.
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At least she's consistant.
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06-06-2006, 01:22 AM
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#126
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by Vulcan
The Americans and the British have been playing fast and loose in the Middle East for years and yeh, they are reaping what they have sown. I believe Canada has been pretty much innocent in these goings on though. When you refer to 'our', who are you refering to, the USA or Canada? I like to think we are separate nations, with often different goals. You seem to have a hard time with that one and in typical American fashion can't see the Canadian view. My ideas on this subject aren't 'funny', you just have a hard time grasping them. Maybe I'm not clear enough, but I've been trying to lead you through the maze.
Your second paragraph shows your hate and you've been brainwashed and there is no point in continuing this conversation.
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Yep, so the best course of action would to get of of there. Seems to me you guys are so hell-bent on blaming the West for everything that happens to us. As of right now Canada and the US are in the same boat. Both countries have either been threatened by terrorist attacks, or have actually been attacked.
Quickest way to solve the problem, since we can't win the war in Iraq or Afghanistan? Get out of there, but of course you don't support that, because, well, I really don't know. We breed these monsters, right? Well by leaving the Middle East we would stop that action, stop all the hate and murderous rage they have for us and our way of life. Or not?
Thing is, constantly blaming ourselves for what is going wrong isn't exactly gettin' to the root of the problem. These people were born Canadian citizens, have probably lived their whole life here in Canada. Therefore they are subject to the same education, medical aid and other needs that Canada provides to its citizens. Yet, they still wanted to kill other Canadian citizens? I really don't understand from which ass you're pulling these assumptions that Canadian civilians where put into harms way when the Liberals sent troops into Afghanistan. Thing is, during the Liberal reign, to our knowledge, there was no immediate threat to the Canadian people.
Harper hasn't changed his stance on Afghanistan, outside from what the Liberals had. We still have the same mindset that we had back then, when this War on Terror got started. Why, now the sudden impluse to blame Canada for our involvement in Afghanistan, that by your words has put the people of Toronto in danger(God knows what else these idiots have planned) when we have been in Afghanistan since the last months of 2001. Thats 5 years, give or take a few months.
Hell, there are 100's of terrorist organizations that would gladly attack the West; do you imply that all of those would do it, simply based on our involvement in Afghanistan?
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06-06-2006, 01:24 AM
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#127
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
That's not your idea. You probably shouldn't try to take credit for it because that idea doesn't make sense.
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Did I take credit? Or is there a law against having an opinion?
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05-22-2009, 09:12 PM
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#129
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Originally Posted by Lombogirl
I wouldn't call terrorism an Islamic movement
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So what is it?
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05-22-2009, 09:53 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Originally Posted by peter12
So what is it?
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I hope you aren't expecting a response from a post made 3 years ago.
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05-22-2009, 10:09 PM
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#131
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Join Date: Oct 2001
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Originally Posted by peter12
So what is it?
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Terrorism is a tactic and a form of warfare that pre-dates Islam. If you look at the different types of terror attacks that take place, only a fraction are Islamic in nature.
Wikipedia has a pretty big list, although I am sure it's nowhere near complete.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...rist_incidents
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05-23-2009, 12:09 AM
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#132
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Originally Posted by Bobblehead
I hope you aren't expecting a response from a post made 3 years ago.
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From a poster that hasn't posted in two years.
But hey, good luck Peter.
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05-23-2009, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
From a poster that hasn't posted in two years.
But hey, good luck Peter.
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Hahaha. Wow.
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05-23-2009, 12:37 AM
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#134
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Had an idea!
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I almost posted something too....until I realized how old the OP was.
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05-23-2009, 09:18 AM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Northern AB, in "oil country" >:p----@
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Originally Posted by Azure
I almost posted something too....until I realized how old the OP was.
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I know. I looked at the thread title and thought "didn't this happen 4 or 5 years ago?"
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05-23-2009, 04:42 PM
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#137
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Wow, I feel so safe with that decision. I mean now he can sit around for 2.5 (1/3 off for good behavior!!! So really 1.7 years) plotting his revenge attacks on tax payer money.
And people wonder why Obama made a 180 on Gitmo detention and Military tribunals.
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05-23-2009, 06:17 PM
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#138
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Offered up a bag of cans for a custom user title
Join Date: Oct 2008
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I think the big issue is how come there is no backlash against these people form Muslim Canadians? Why aren't they stepping forward to condemn mosques or anything else that is promoting this stuff?
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05-23-2009, 10:45 PM
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#139
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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
I think the big issue is how come there is no backlash against these people form Muslim Canadians? Why aren't they stepping forward to condemn mosques or anything else that is promoting this stuff?
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That would be bigoted. Only open season on Christians and churches.
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05-24-2009, 01:58 AM
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Offered up a bag of cans for a custom user title
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Seriously Hoz, why is there no backlash? Are they afraid?
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