05-14-2009, 09:13 AM
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Great movie. Saw it last night on an IMAX screen, and it exceeded my expectations (which were fairly high) in most every way. Just a great film.
It was amazing to me how thoroughly impressed everyone at the theater seemed to be while filing out after it was over: die-hard Trekkies and complete Star Trek noobs alike.
I'm already looking forward to XII!
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05-14-2009, 09:21 AM
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#402
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Originally Posted by Thunderball
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Same reason Spock and the original universe didn't cease to exist when Nero entered the black hole singularity thing before he did. They didn't go to their past, they went to another universe that was identical to theirs until Nero showed up. The universes are apparently the same before the Kelvin attack, which changes everything, scars young Jim Kirk, delays the Enterprise's construction by several years and makes the technology way different.
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My interpretation was that they went back to an earlier time in their own universe, but in doing so, essentially caused it to be split into two realities. Perhaps that interpretation is coloured by watching Fringe and seeing a lot of similarities there in terms of alternate realities (although I hope that Star Trek, now that it's in a branched reality, will progress forward and not involve further jumping back and forth with the alternate reality).
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05-14-2009, 10:15 AM
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#403
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In the Sin Bin
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I think, ultimately, they will do a movie that features the restoration of Vulcan to kinda realign the timelines. Kinda hard to simply leave the genocide of six billion people off to the side like that.
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05-14-2009, 10:17 AM
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um... the only time I remember alternate universe being used was in Star Trek: Enterprise
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05-14-2009, 10:24 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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It was a good movie, not great, and not close to being the best Trek movie, but I enjoyed it.
The acting was good, though I felt that far too often (especially Bones) was trying to do an imitation of the TV show, which was pretty frustrating, it was over the top. I thought Simon Pegg did the best version of his character personally.
And my lord.... when will Star Trek get away from time travel as a major plot device in their story telling.
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05-14-2009, 10:28 AM
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#406
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by STeeLy
um... the only time I remember alternate universe being used was in Star Trek: Enterprise
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It was originated in the original series with the best episode of trek ever made "Mirror Mirror"
They also went back and forth to the alternate universe in DS9 serveral times.
There was a series of books by the Shat where they theorized that one event created an alternate time line where the federation was an evil empire.
The enterprise mirror series were the only good episodes in that painfull show.
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05-14-2009, 10:29 AM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
It was a good movie, not great, and not close to being the best Trek movie, but I enjoyed it.
The acting was good, though I felt that far too often (especially Bones) was trying to do an imitation of the TV show, which was pretty frustrating, it was over the top. I thought Simon Pegg did the best version of his character personally.
And my lord.... when will Star Trek get away from time travel as a major plot device in their story telling.
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They never will, they're still sitting on the script where spock goes back in time and becomes the man on the grassy knoll who actually kills Kennedy while Kirk tries to stop him.
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05-14-2009, 07:02 PM
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#408
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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Too bad most non trekkies will never get the fencing joke or the scotty inventing something before it was invented joke, etc.
Last edited by Hack&Lube; 05-14-2009 at 07:06 PM.
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05-14-2009, 07:09 PM
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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Biggest disappointment - Kobayashi Maru was a huge let-down. They got the eating the apple right from Wrath of Khan, but totally anticlimatic for one of the defining moments and the climax of Kirk's Academy career. It was something of myth.
There was a book written about how various people took the test and that author had a much more brilliant idea. Instead of just cheating to take down the shields - Kirk reprogrammed the Klingons to recognize him (then a nameless cadet) as a famous commander deserving honor and respect and someone to be absolutely feared (what he would become anyway).
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05-14-2009, 07:12 PM
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#410
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
Biggest disappointment - Kobayashi Maru was a huge let-down. They got the eating the apple right from Wrath of Khan, but totally anticlimatic for one of the defining moments and the climax of Kirk's Academy career. It was something of myth.
There was a book written about how various people took the test and that author had a much more brilliant idea. Instead of just cheating to take down the shields - Kirk reprogrammed the Klingons to recognize him (then a nameless cadet) as a famous commander deserving honor and respect and someone to be absolutely feared (what he would become anyway).
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Maybe that was the defining moment in the Prime Universe. I would say the Nero incident was the defining moment in the Abramsverse. But that is it for my nerd out of today. I agree with you in principle however.
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05-14-2009, 07:21 PM
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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Is it worth seeing this film again in IMAX? Is there added frame ratio? (like for Batman)
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05-15-2009, 11:40 AM
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I won an office pool on opening weekend takes. I guessed $80M, final weekend boxoffice (including thursday's sneaks) was $79.2M.
Won $25...means I can get another Titanium Star Trek spork.
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05-15-2009, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
Biggest disappointment - Kobayashi Maru was a huge let-down. They got the eating the apple right from Wrath of Khan, but totally anticlimatic for one of the defining moments and the climax of Kirk's Academy career. It was something of myth.
There was a book written about how various people took the test and that author had a much more brilliant idea. Instead of just cheating to take down the shields - Kirk reprogrammed the Klingons to recognize him (then a nameless cadet) as a famous commander deserving honor and respect and someone to be absolutely feared (what he would become anyway).
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If you ever played the game star fleet academy they recreated the Kobayashi Maru scenario with a fresh young cadet who hero worshiped Kirk. He reprogrammed the Klingons to be cowardly blow hards, and the cadet scared them into retreating.
It was actually a very funny scene.
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05-15-2009, 12:17 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Medicine Hat
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
Is it worth seeing this film again in IMAX? Is there added frame ratio? (like for Batman)
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My understanding is no. [ link]
The "IMAX" version of Star Trek underwent some sort of digital remastering for the larger screen, and some claim the experience is noticeably better than the regular screen version, but no, there was no native IMAX-size, -resolution, or -ratio recording at any point in the movie.
I saw the IMAX version and thought it was quite great, but part of that could just be that it was in a newer theater with really awesome sound and a slightly bigger screen. Haven't seen the regular version to compare it to, so I'm not sure it would necessarily be worth it to everyone.
Other articles here and here.
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05-16-2009, 09:15 AM
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Saw it last night, and while I did really enjoy it, I did have a few little complaints.
First of all, the cinematography. While interesting, I think the camera had maybe 3 seconds of stationary filming for the whole movie. The thing was all over the place. If you get easily nauseated in theaters, sit at the back.
A few other things here and there, the design of the ship was vastly different than anything in any other trek film for one thing, but I'm not sure if thats good or bad.
In the end, the movie was just so much fun that I was willing to overlook the really minor stuff.
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05-16-2009, 10:23 AM
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That was a movie that definitely has series potential.
My only complaint was with the casting of Uhura
Beyond that it was good.
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05-16-2009, 12:18 PM
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#417
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Join Date: Aug 2003
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Through 9 days at the box office, Star Trek sits at $116.4 million domestically and $165.7 million worldwide.
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05-16-2009, 01:09 PM
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#418
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Called back home today and even my parents were raving about how good this movie was. I HAVE to see it.
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05-16-2009, 07:26 PM
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#419
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Watched it earlier today and it's about 3/5 stars.
I never watched the original series and maybe one of the movies. But because of various graveyard jobs and continuity syndication, I have watched every episode of TNG, DS9 and Voyager as well as all the TNG movies. But I didn't watch any episodes of Enterprise.
So for me, this was another time travel plot that had the look of Nemesis with lesser known characters.
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05-16-2009, 07:46 PM
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#420
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Lethbridge
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I won't geek out with a detailed review because I have very little knowledge of Star Trek in the first place. That being said, I thought the movie was good..............but not great.
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