Star Trek (XI) - GO SEE IT!

[Eastern Girl]

I saw it last night (Sunday), the 10:50pm showing. I figured it would be a lighter crowd, but it was absolutely packed. I had a fun discussion with the guy next to me about which term Trek fans prefer, trekkie or trekker.

I liked it, I wasn't totally in love with it like everyone seems to be, but I definitely enjoyed it. I thought Chris Pine as Kirk was fantastic, and he's not a bad looking young man to boot.

Question - (I'll put it in white just in case it might be spoiler-esque) Did Ohura and Spock have a relationship in the original series? That kind of caught me off guard, but I am unfamiliar with the original stuff. /end spoiler question.

[Nehkara]

Originally Posted by Eastern Girl

I saw it last night (Sunday), the 10:50pm showing. I figured it would be a lighter crowd, but it was absolutely packed. I had a fun discussion with the guy next to me about which term Trek fans prefer, trekkie or trekker.

I liked it, I wasn't totally in love with it like everyone seems to be, but I definitely enjoyed it. I thought Chris Pine as Kirk was fantastic, and he's not a bad looking young man to boot.

Question - (I'll put it in white just in case it might be spoiler-esque) Did Ohura and Spock have a relationship in the original series? That kind of caught me off guard, but I am unfamiliar with the original stuff. /end spoiler question.

In response to your question: No. It was, I think, designed to catch people off guard... seemed to catch Kirk off guard!

[3 Justin 3]

Just saw the film. Awesome film, had a great story, great acting, tons of action. Definitely one of the better films I have seen in a while. Way better than Wolverine I saw last week.

Originally Posted by Delgar

What an awesome movie. Considering how hard it is to do a proper 'reboot' with so many characters, this has exceed every expectation I could have had.

Setting the bar low, this was way better than the Star Wars prequels. Setting it high, this was better than The Dark Knight*.




*with all due respect to Heath as the Joker, a performance that really stands on its own and will stand the test of time.

I almost want to say that it was better than TDK as well. I am thinking about it, because it was so well written, and acted. I will say it is as good as TDK, depending on my mood, it is better than TDK.

[awildermode]

Originally Posted by Nehkara

In response to your question: No. It was, I think, designed to catch people off guard... seemed to catch Kirk off guard!

they implied the relationship in the original series though nothing was ever shown. this was one of many details that were 'sprinkled' into the film.

[Nehkara]

Originally Posted by awildermode

they implied the relationship in the original series though nothing was ever shown. this was one of many details that were 'sprinkled' into the film.

Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks!

[awildermode]

great article on the "science" of the movie.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/ba...iew-star-trek/

...oh, and there are SPOILERS in the article.

[OutOfTheCube]

I think Star Trek is definitely more watchable than TDK. More fun, more action, funnier, more entertaining, shorter (but not too short).

TDK is a fantastic film but one you have to be in the right mood to watch. I know I'm going to be watching this Star Trek over and over.

[awildermode]

This is awesome! virtual 3D of ship

http://www.experience-the-enterprise.com/

you will need a web cam and this image (like a print out):

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

They ditched matinee pricing here a few years ago. It's $12.50 at any time now.

Paid $8.00 to see it in Okotoks

[awildermode]

This would have been Shatner's scene in the movie.

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/artic...16/story.jhtml

Though it seems like a stretch, I think it may have worked.

[Thunderball]

Originally Posted by awildermode

This would have been Shatner's scene in the movie.

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/artic...16/story.jhtml

Though it seems like a stretch, I think it may have worked.

Its way too cheesy to imply that Spock carried a note from Kirk around for 80 years. Average moviegoers would find it cheesy and would confuse them as to how far in the future Spock comes from. For the mainstream Trek fan, it flies in the face of the TNG episodes, which implied Spock wasn't in Romulus that long. That, and it adds nothing to the Kirk mythos.

The only way it would have worked (at least in my mind) is if they firmly raised their middle finger to Generations, and implied Kirk was resurrected somehow (don't say how at all, just imply Spock was involved).

How do you do it? Put Kirk in a new TNG/DS9 uniform and his saying goodbye because he knows Spock's mission to stop the supernova is likely a one-way trip (like it was said in the prequel comic). He could mention how he'll always treasure their adventures and how he'll never forget how they "cheated death" together.

It would shock the hell out of Trekkies, and since we're likely never seeing the original universe again, they don't need to come up with some convoluted reason to bring Kirk back from dead, he just did... somehow. A lot of time passed between Generations, Nemesis and the new movie's future portions (at least 10-15 years), lots of time for something to have happened there. Imagine the shock value.

It would please the average viewer knowing the original Kirk is around somewhere too. Shatner would have done it cause its a cameo with value. The cameo as it was written was worthless, the movie itself showed new Kirk and Spock becoming friends. Its no surprise he said no. Its the same reason Nimoy said no to Generations.

[Agamemnon]

Spoliers:

Soooooooo.... when Vulcan gets destroyed, shouldn't Spock's ship from the future disappear at the same time? The future planet that built his ship no longer existed.

Dang time-physics!

[Thunderball]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Spoliers:

Soooooooo.... when Vulcan gets destroyed, shouldn't Spock's ship from the future disappear at the same time? The future planet that built his ship no longer existed.

Dang time-physics!

More Spoilers:

Same reason Spock and the original universe didn't cease to exist when Nero entered the black hole singularity thing before he did. They didn't go to their past, they went to another universe that was identical to theirs until Nero showed up. The universes are apparently the same before the Kelvin attack, which changes everything, scars young Jim Kirk, delays the Enterprise's construction by several years and makes the technology way different.

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by Thunderball

More Spoilers:

Same reason Spock and the original universe didn't cease to exist when Nero entered the black hole singularity thing before he did. They didn't go to their past, they went to another universe that was identical to theirs until Nero showed up. The universes are apparently the same before the Kelvin attack, which changes everything, scars young Jim Kirk, delays the Enterprise's construction by several years and makes the technology way different.

Convenient. Time travel's not enough, it has to be inter-dimensional?

When they went back in time in Star Trek IV, I assume that was just time-travel, rather than dimensional and time? And how come they travel dimensionally across time in this instance, but in many other Star Trek time travel plots it's almost always the same dimension?

I suppose there was that TNG episode with all the different Enterprises from different dimensions... maybe there's something in that episode that relates to the dimensional aspect.

Cool!

[Thunderball]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Convenient. Time travel's not enough, it has to be inter-dimensional?

When they went back in time in Star Trek IV, I assume that was just time-travel, rather than dimensional and time? And how come they travel dimensionally across time in this instance, but in many other Star Trek time travel plots it's almost always the same dimension?

I suppose there was that TNG episode with all the different Enterprises from different dimensions... maybe there's something in that episode that relates to the dimensional aspect.

Cool!

Yeah, Star Trek has always picked which ever time travel theory advanced the plot best. The slingshot effect used in STIV was established to be within the normal universe. In this movie, its quantumm mechanics theories, and they could say the blackhole was both a gateway and a time portal. Which is also why Spock can't go back. Even if he pulls the Slingshot effect out, it would only be that universe's past/future.

[lambeburger]

Just saw the movie a few hours ago. I really enjoyed it. I rarely like a movie enough to see it twice in theatres, but I might for this one.

[worth]

There are scientists that would argue in "real life" that the only way it is possible to time travel, is to do it interdimensionally. This would avoid the whole grandfather paradox issues. Anyway, that all theoretical. I really enjoyed the movie. I saw it last night and I was expecting big things after seeing the trailers a while ago and all the positive hype. It didn't disappoint. Hoping for more movies in the future. Maybe a new series. I'd watch that.

Although, I should clarify about the manipulation of time is a way to travel. In fact, people who have spent significant amounts of time in space have time traveled. They spend months orbiting the earth at 17,000 mph. The faster you go, the more time slows down relative to someone else not traveling at that speed. In essence, cosmonauts and astronauts that spend months in space, have actually traveled into the future by a fraction of a second.

So there are kind of two different ideas here. Time travel to go to another time specifically in the past or future. It may not be possible to do this and stay within the same dimension. However, if you travel as near light speed, many many years would pass over on Earth for instance when you only travel for a few minutes. You would be time traveling into the future and stay within your own dimension.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but I don't think warp speed is the ship moving at extreme speeds, rather, the ship is warping space around it to arrive in another place. Bending space so that you can get to a far part of it faster than light.

[Coach]

I saw it a couple days ago. Loved it. I really liked how it could appeal to someone like me (I think i've seen 1 episode of Star Trek ever). I thought the entire cast was awesome. Everything just worked. Way to go JJ Abrams

[mykalberta]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Convenient. Time travel's not enough, it has to be inter-dimensional?

When they went back in time in Star Trek IV, I assume that was just time-travel, rather than dimensional and time? And how come they travel dimensionally across time in this instance, but in many other Star Trek time travel plots it's almost always the same dimension?

I suppose there was that TNG episode with all the different Enterprises from different dimensions... maybe there's something in that episode that relates to the dimensional aspect.

Cool!

Actually when you think about it. Alternate Universe (if it exists) travel should be easier than time travel IMO. BTW I got 74 in Physics 30 so I know what I am talking about

[an_album_cover]

Watched it last night at Chinook. Waaay better than I thought it would be. Lots of action, laughs, great characters, etc.

That midget green alien mechanic guy was awesome. Reminds me of an Ewok for some reason.