05-09-2009, 12:22 AM
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Two big gay thumbs up!!!!!
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Is the guy playing Sulu openly gay this time? Is there a "different" take on the Vulcan love rituals? Does Kirk have an outrageous codpiece?
"To boldly go where no man has gone before" kind of has me nervous now.
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05-09-2009, 01:16 AM
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Just absolutely fantastic!
Rarely has a movie that I have anticipated SO much lived up to the anticipation and expectation.
What a way to reboot Star Trek. Thank you Mr. Abrams.
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05-09-2009, 01:30 PM
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Good news for Star Trek today.
It now occupies the #82 spot in the top 250 all-time on IMDb.
Star Trek made approximately $7 million on Thursday night and $24 million Friday totalling $31 million thus far. Today will probably be its biggest day, being a Saturday. Initial estimates put the opening weekend for Star Trek at $60-70 million but it now looks as though it will surpass those figures. The writer of the article linked below believes that Star Trek will definitely pass $75 million and probably land around $85 million for its opening weekend.
Previous best opening weekend for a Star Trek film? Star Trek: First Contact made $13 million.
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05-09-2009, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Nehkara
Rarely has a movie that I have anticipated SO much lived up to the anticipation and expectation.
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This was the part that made it extra sweet for me as well. The hype was HUGE going into this and it still blew me away.
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05-09-2009, 01:55 PM
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This was the part that made it extra sweet for me as well. The hype was HUGE going into this and it still blew me away.
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Absolutely!
It almost never happens. I am always really hyped up and I still enjoy the movie but it doesn't live up to the vision in my head.
Star Trek blew away even my expectations (which were very high) and I am just so pumped because of that. I wanted to watch it again right away after it finished last night (at 12:30 AM). I will probably go again before the weekend is over.
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05-09-2009, 01:56 PM
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I hope I'm still around at 78 let alone look that good.
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No kidding...cant forget how old the guy is.
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05-09-2009, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Nehkara
Absolutely!
It almost never happens. I am always really hyped up and I still enjoy the movie but it doesn't live up to the vision in my head.
Star Trek blew away even my expectations (which were very high) and I am just so pumped because of that. I wanted to watch it again right away after it finished last night (at 12:30 AM). I will probably go again before the weekend is over.
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I can't get over how good Spock was. The new one I mean. Kirk got a tad annoying as well as old Spock, but that was my only beef. And it wasn't like it was overwhelming, it was just hard to take the character seriously sometimes when he still has acne scars.
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05-09-2009, 02:20 PM
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my wife knows nothing about Star Trek (or any pop culture). she first thought that old Spock was Zachary Quinto in make-up/CG...some how made him look old. Then, thought Nimoy and Quinto were related.
When I showed her Deforest Kelly, she also thought that the new McCoy and Kelly were related.
Just shows how great the casting was on this.
Great casting! Great story! Great movie!
AWESOME!
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05-09-2009, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by awildermode
my wife knows nothing about Star Trek (or any pop culture). she first thought that old Spock was Zachary Quinto in make-up/CG...some how made him look old. Then, thought Nimoy and Quinto were related.
When I showed her Deforest Kelly, she also thought that the new McCoy and Kelly were related.
Just shows how great the casting was on this.
Great casting! Great story! Great movie!
AWESOME!
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Good point about the cast. I thought the casting for this movie was just fantastic. I actually really liked Chris Pine as Kirk, Zachary Quinto was brilliant as Spock, and I have to say that I just LOVED Simon Pegg as Scotty. Simon Pegg I find absolutely hilarious so I was really happy to see him in that role.
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05-09-2009, 02:49 PM
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^^yeah, and uhura is HOT! someone should pick her in the hottie draft
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05-09-2009, 03:03 PM
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Watched it yesterday afternoon, very good. Can't wait for the next one!
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05-09-2009, 03:14 PM
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^^yeah, and uhura is HOT! someone should pick her in the hottie draft
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And her green room mate.
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05-09-2009, 05:41 PM
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Never a Star Trek fan, watched maybe 2 of the movies and the show very seldomly. I LOVED THIS MOVIE!! Very solid. Gonna see it again for sure.
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05-09-2009, 07:06 PM
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I'm going to see this tonight, based solely on getbak mentioning Uhura's green room-mate. Green alien chix are what made Star Trek great.
I will be seriously annoyed if Kirk doesn't put the Prime Directive to her, though.
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05-09-2009, 08:46 PM
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OK, I will now admit to myself that I am a trekkie. Why? Because when I first heard the beeping from the Kelvin, I cried.
Best movie ever.
I will go see this movie many times in the theater.
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05-09-2009, 09:42 PM
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I hated the new movie. Absolutely hated it.
TOS never happened. The timelines are gone .... with no Romulus and no Vulcan the timelines would be so screwed, TNG, DS9, Voyageur all likely never happened and certainly not the way that they did. Without the Romulans helping in the alliance against the Dominion, humanity is likely wiped out.
I think this was Abrahms took this as an opportunity to take out everything that Roddenberry made and throw it into the trash. All that never happened... Roddenberry is dead and so is everything he did.
Now maybe I sound too much like:
http://www.theonion.com/content/vide...star_trek_film
But this new timeline thing says "Hey, I can't be bothered respecting the storyline that the old-time trekkies know and love, so I'm gonna piss on them, say that everything that they love is false and take the easy way out all the way to the bank."
But MOST of all, this is a sell-out movie. Read this Newsweek article:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/196005
In this movie, there was no debate as to where we draw the lines on rights as there was with Data or the Doctor. There was no discussion of when we should interfere in the problems of another society. There was no moral on tolerance and the acceptance of others. Perhaps Sulu *should* have been gay. And married. That at least would have been something in the vein of Roddenberry. But yeah, there were lots of explosions and, well, more explosions.
Abrahms has taken all the great things that Roddenberry did in Star Trek and whored it out like he did Uhura.
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05-09-2009, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate
I hated the new movie. Absolutely hated it.
TOS never happened. The timelines are gone .... with no Romulus and no Vulcan the timelines would be so screwed, TNG, DS9, Voyageur all likely never happened and certainly not the way that they did. Without the Romulans helping in the alliance against the Dominion, humanity is likely wiped out.
I think this was Abrahms took this as an opportunity to take out everything that Roddenberry made and throw it into the trash. All that never happened... Roddenberry is dead and so is everything he did.
Now maybe I sound too much like:
http://www.theonion.com/content/vide...star_trek_film
But this new timeline thing says "Hey, I can't be bothered respecting the storyline that the old-time trekkies know and love, so I'm gonna piss on them, say that everything that they love is false and take the easy way out all the way to the bank."
But MOST of all, this is a sell-out movie. Read this Newsweek article:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/196005
In this movie, there was no debate as to where we draw the lines on rights as there was with Data or the Doctor. There was no discussion of when we should interfere in the problems of another society. There was no moral on tolerance and the acceptance of others. Perhaps Sulu *should* have been gay. And married. That at least would have been something in the vein of Roddenberry. But yeah, there were lots of explosions and, well, more explosions.
Abrahms has taken all the great things that Roddenberry did in Star Trek and whored it out like he did Uhura.
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You are very one-dimensional, Mr. Devils' Advocate.
I think you totally missed the entire point of the movie.
The movie is beautifully done, has a strong story, a great cast, amazing effects and is hilarious.
This movie is designed to reboot the franchise and allow Paramount to continue on with the franchise for many more years to come (there is already a sequel started).
This was not supposed to be exactly the same as every iteration of Star Trek before it. It is a new cast, a new crew, new writing, new directing, etc.
You sound like you would have preferred that they had just redone the original series movies with updated effects.
This movie creates opportunities for new adventures and an entirely new era of Star Trek... and the first movie in that era looks like it will eclipse all previous Star Trek iterations at the box office and be the most critically acclaimed of all of those iterations.
Yes the movie does not take on the same kind of moral struggles that some of the shows did in certain episodes or some of the movies did but there is lots of time for that now that Star Trek is BACK!
I would like to say that I am sorry that all of that got in the way of you enjoying the movie... but I guess you can never please EVERYone.
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05-09-2009, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate
I hated the new movie. Absolutely hated it.
TOS never happened. The timelines are gone .... with no Romulus and no Vulcan the timelines would be so screwed, TNG, DS9, Voyageur all likely never happened and certainly not the way that they did. Without the Romulans helping in the alliance against the Dominion, humanity is likely wiped out.
I think this was Abrahms took this as an opportunity to take out everything that Roddenberry made and throw it into the trash. All that never happened... Roddenberry is dead and so is everything he did.
Now maybe I sound too much like:
http://www.theonion.com/content/vide...star_trek_film
But this new timeline thing says "Hey, I can't be bothered respecting the storyline that the old-time trekkies know and love, so I'm gonna piss on them, say that everything that they love is false and take the easy way out all the way to the bank."
But MOST of all, this is a sell-out movie. Read this Newsweek article:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/196005
In this movie, there was no debate as to where we draw the lines on rights as there was with Data or the Doctor. There was no discussion of when we should interfere in the problems of another society. There was no moral on tolerance and the acceptance of others. Perhaps Sulu *should* have been gay. And married. That at least would have been something in the vein of Roddenberry. But yeah, there were lots of explosions and, well, more explosions.
Abrahms has taken all the great things that Roddenberry did in Star Trek and whored it out like he did Uhura.
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Firstly I will say I am a closet Trekkie. I used to be obsessed with the Trek universe, but got bored with it with it when they started moving away from great stories and more towards a bunch of techno babble whatamacallit episodes near the end of TNG. The best days were when Spock was trying to study everything and Kirk just wanted to kill everything. I kinda just turned into a passing fan. To me the new version goes back to its roots as a more character driven story with some real cool battles. As a huge fan of TOS, the first 6 films and the earlier TNG stuff, I say the movie was phenomenal. The only Trek that compares is Wrath of Khan. If that film had the benefit of the CGI, modern day effects and younger actors this film has it would be a tough call which is better since they are very similar in their plotlines.
The statement they erased Roddenberry's version is in a very one dimensional way to look at it. Any Trek fan knows one of the staples of the series is alternate dimensions, parallel universes, time travel and space time rifts. All this movie has done is followed along and immersed us in one of the parallel universes. The entire timeline changed the second the Kelvin encountered the Romulan ship at the beginning. The original timeline still happened, as old Spock remembers, but now we get immersed in one of the alternate time lines/parallel universes and follow it instead of going back to the original. I have always thought it would be cool to get to see how things panned out in one of the many episodes when the Enterprise crew ecountered alternate versions of them selves or their own realities if we were to stay with the alternate versions. This re-boot gives us that chance.
Personally I think it was a very clever way for them to free themselves of the old canon and take the series in a new direction. I for one will be seeing it again, and the new characters in my opinion were amazing. I laughed every time we got the bones "eyebrow raise" it was perfect.
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05-09-2009, 10:28 PM
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This one will bomb and bomb badly, the day and age of Star Trek is over and done with. the next generation movies with the exception of First contact were garbage. Voyager was terrible, Enterprise was terrible, Deep Space 9 was terrific but people didn't get it, and Next Generation pretty much bored me to tears.
Paramount has driven this franchise straight into the ground, and I doubt that there are enough Trekkies out there that will take the time to put down thier Klingon Version of Hamlet, stop playing with their dolls er collectibles and take time out of thier debate with a fellow trekkie about who was a better Captain Kirk or Picard to go to the Theater.
Nemesis was promoted as this huge leap forward for Trek with the writer of Gladiator at the helm and it was the first movie I walked out of since my girlfriend tried to convince me that TomCats with Jerry O'connell could be funny.
Just let it die already.
Star Trek doesn't need another shovel full of dirt on its face.
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This post should humble you. You couldn't have been more wrong, and all your complaining from the original thread that you drink star trek like it's fine wine and knew this one would be koolaid was way off.
It was fantastic in every sense of the word.
Tracking at 94% after over 200 reviews on Rotten Tomatoes.
Trekies and new audiences are loving every minute of it, and it made 30 Million dollars on Friday alone.
Everyone in the cast played the part with a core understanding of the original without copying.
It was action packed from beginning to end.
It brings a new intrigue for non fans and remains pleasing to long time fans.
100% home run.
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05-09-2009, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pylon
Firstly I will say I am a closet Trekkie. I used to be obsessed with the Trek universe, but got bored with it with it when they started moving away from great stories and more towards a bunch of techno babble whatamacallit episodes near the end of TNG. The best days were when Spock was trying to study everything and Kirk just wanted to kill everything. I kinda just turned into a passing fan. To me the new version goes back to its roots as a more character driven story with some real cool battles. As a huge fan of TOS, the first 6 films and the earlier TNG stuff, I say the movie was phenomenal. The only Trek that compares is Wrath of Khan. If that film had the benefit of the CGI, modern day effects and younger actors this film has it would be a tough call which is better since they are very similar in their plotlines.
The statement they erased Roddenberry's version is in a very one dimensional way to look at it. Any Trek fan knows one of the staples of the series is alternate dimensions, parallel universes, time travel and space time rifts. All this movie has done is followed along and immersed us in one of the parallel universes. The entire timeline changed the second the Kelvin encountered the Romulan ship at the beginning. The original timeline still happened, as old Spock remembers, but now we get immersed in one of the alternate time lines/parallel universes and follow it instead of going back to the original. I have always thought it would be cool to get to see how things panned out in one of the many episodes when the Enterprise crew ecountered alternate versions of them selves or their own realities if we were to stay with the alternate versions. This re-boot gives us that chance.
Personally I think it was a very clever way for them to free themselves of the old canon and take the series in a new direction. I for one will be seeing it again, and the new characters in my opinion were amazing. I laughed every time we got the bones "eyebrow raise" it was perfect.
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Thank you for saying a lot of the things I was having trouble articulating.
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