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Gozer · 05-07-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CrusaderPi

I wouldn't put the Angels in that category. They've spent big money on big hitters.

I'm talking about the brand of baseball they play, hit and run, stretching singles into doubles, first to third on a single, that kind of stuff. Its not station-to-station baseball like the Yankees.

Having high paid players and home runs doesn't negate that.

SeeGeeWhy · 05-07-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Because all hockey players are on roids?

hmm at least they have a bit of pride in themselves. the fattest guy in the NHL is Wellwood or Penner? Well they are prob in better shape than 80% of the guys in baseball.

You must be a HUGE golf fan.

Bertuzzied · 05-07-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy

You must be a HUGE golf fan.

haha don't get me going about golf.

Anyways my bimonthly trolling on baseball is over.

Carry on.

Tyler · 05-07-2009, 02:35 PM

Well, the good news is that at least Gary Bettman isn't the commissioner with the biggest snafu on his hands now

Jason14h · 05-07-2009, 02:43 PM

Bill Simmons Article (Huge Sox Fan on ESPN)

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...7&sportCat=mlb

bigalspratty · 05-07-2009, 02:44 PM

I dont know if anyone has made mention of it yet, but this might interest some of you....

http://www.calgarysun.com/sports/bas...16-calsun.html

JiriHrdina · 05-07-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bigalspratty

I dont know if anyone has made mention of it yet, but this might interest some of you....

http://www.calgarysun.com/sports/bas...16-calsun.html

Cheap PR stunt and another reason why that organization is a complete joke.

worth · 05-07-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Cheap PR stunt and another reason why that organization is a complete joke.

But it's the only baseball in town to watch. I really, really wish there was AAA here still. Man, how lucky we were to have that team, and now there's no more AAA in Canada at all. How sad. All I want to do is watch good baseball on a sunny afternoon in Calgary with a decent sized crowd but us fans are stuck with a team like this.

habernac · 05-07-2009, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by habernac

Sounds like he got something prescribed and he didn't bother to check the ingredients. Pretty dumb on his part. He sort of takes responsibility in his official statement, but in the end, he's the guy who has to make sure what he's taking isn't on the banned list.

well, if it's what they're saying it is (HCG) then he's going to have a tough time convincing anyone he isn't/wasn't a user. Add an asterix to the Red Sox World Series teams. Wonder what Curt Shilling is going to say about this?

RedHot25 · 05-07-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Cheap PR stunt and another reason why that organization is a complete joke.

A joke, but that's non-affiliated minor league baseball. Many many independent league teams do these type of things. Its not unique to the Vipers.

JayP · 05-07-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Cheap PR stunt and another reason why that organization is a complete joke.

It's minor league baseball.

This is pretty much par for the course.

Bertuzzied · 05-07-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Cheap PR stunt and another reason why that organization is a complete joke.

Can't fault them. Ramirez is worth at least 20 bats and maybe a broken down team bus.

malcolmk14 · 05-07-2009, 05:27 PM

As messed up as it sounds, Manny is actually the type of guy that would accept an offer like this. Would anyone really be surprised?

bluejays · 05-07-2009, 07:26 PM

I'm not a conspiracy guy, but something really tells me one of the Sox ratted on this guy. He was almost villified when he was gone from Boston. Just seems kinda odd.

As for Boras. What a bum. Classic. I didn't do it, I won't say anything, but I will say that I'm innocent because of this...da da da. Then he goes on to not appeal the suspension? I'd have thought the guy no matter what would try and clear up his name. Just seems strange.

Tyler · 05-07-2009, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Can't fault them. Ramirez is worth at least 20 bats and maybe a broken down team bus.

nm.

Super-Rye · 05-07-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy

I'm now convinced that there may not be a clean significant MLB player.

Other than Griffey and Thomas I cant think of anyone significant that hasnt (a) been closely linked with performance enhancing drugs or (b) actually been tested. Shoot even Pujos is suspected.

Carlos Delgado. Fantastic ball player that is clean and no one ever talks about him.

IceMan · 05-07-2009, 09:34 PM

to the OP who said that Baseball is not a sport is obviously mad at the situation. Baseball is a fantastic sport with great history who is just going through a tough era. We don't know who is on Steroids anymore we just assume that everybody was taking them because that's what everybody was doing. Regardless, anybody that says that there done watching baseball and not going to go any games is just lying and being a complete idiot. Baseball is still getting great TV numbers so I guess the Steroid effect isn't hurting the game in that sense.

However it does tarnish the players that have used Steroids and now most likely will never be looked at the same again. The Hall of Fame will not take most of these players and its a shame because they were some of the best players in the history of the game and will now go down as players who took part in the Steroid era and all there great numbers will always have an asterisk next to it.

I will still watch baseball and cheer my team on regardless, but i do agree that its a dark era in baseball when all of your top players have either admitted or been caught using PED's.

moon · 05-07-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Super-Rye

Carlos Delgado. Fantastic ball player that is clean and no one ever talks about him.

Looking at his numbers if he hadn't played in TO I doubt many here would talk about him either.

Montana Moe · 05-08-2009, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by habernac

well, if it's what they're saying it is (HCG) then he's going to have a tough time convincing anyone he isn't/wasn't a user. Add an asterix to the Red Sox World Series teams. Wonder what Curt Shilling is going to say about this?

I doubt there has been a "clean" World Series winning team in the past 25-30 years.

Super-Rye · 05-08-2009, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by moon

Looking at his numbers if he hadn't played in TO I doubt many here would talk about him either.

Yeah because 472 career home runs and 9 years of 100+ RBI's is not noteworthy in the slightest. Hell, even at 36 he is on pace for another 100+ RBI seaoson. One of the best run producing first basemen in the league right now.