Surprise..surprise, if your religious your more likely to..

[T@T]

agree with torture against suspected terrorists.

More than half of people who attend services at least once a week -- 54 percent -- said the use of torture against suspected terrorists is "often" or "sometimes" justified. Only 42 percent of people who "seldom or never" go to services agreed,

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/30/rel...ure/index.html

[4X4]

That's a pretty stupid article and an even stupider survey. It says nothing at all. The difference is 12 points. How is that even relevant? 42% of people that seldom or never go to church support the same thing as 54% of people that go to church once or more per week?

I'm full on atheist, but I think this article is crap.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by 4X4

That's a pretty stupid article and an even stupider survey. It says nothing at all. The difference is 12 points. How is that even relevant? 42% of people that seldom or never go to church support the same thing as 54% of people that go to church once or more per week?

I'm full on atheist, but I think this article is crap.

Barack Obama beat John McCain 52.9% to 45.7% in the popular vote and it was considered a landslide.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by T@T

Barack Obama beat John McCain 52.9% to 45.7% in the popular vote and it was considered a landslide.

That's because the electoral college system is broken.

It's a Pew survey, so that means it's probably good data. Sample size is only 742 though. I'd doubt their confidence levels are high enough to really say anything meaningful.

[Daradon]

You don't think it's at all telling that people who supposedly should be learning from prophets and saviors and trying to follow the goodness of god, are actually LESS likely to follow those types of teachings?

I mean isn't this what the religious right keeps telling us? That atheists and liberals have no morals? Yet they're more likely to snub their savoir's teachings?

I mean yeah, it's not highly scientific, nor is it a huge gap, but I really wish more people who constantly complain about the state of morality would take a good hard look in the mirror.

Religion isn't about values, and it isn't about doing what's right. It's about control. It always has been, and always will be. Whether it's controlling large nations, or just the people in your household. It's about getting people to do what you want to do and more importantly, think the way you want them to think.

The funny thing is when religion starts to have less influence on a society, you usually see more freedoms, fairness, and morality. Not less. If you're to afraid to look at examples close to home, you can at least look at the effect religion has in the middle east, and how it's used.

I bet they'd be ok with torture too.

[doozwimp]

In related news conservatives are more likely to take Stephen Colbert seriously.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...?query=colbert

[peter12]

Sweet lord, how can anyone actually report these surveys as if they are some sort of relevant news? And you guys are a bunch of dumb clods for not being able to critically analyze them. An online survey of 322 students at a single university... are you kidding me?

[T@T]

Originally Posted by peter12

Sweet lord, how can anyone actually report these surveys as if they are some sort of relevant news? And you guys are a bunch of dumb clods for not being able to critically analyze them. An online survey of 322 students at a single university... are you kidding me?

Where did you get that from?

[rubecube]

I thought the thread was ironically leading in to say religious people struggle with basic grammar. I was mistaken.

Does that mean CTU will be back next season and Jack Bauer can go back to his old job?!

Awesome!

[flizzenflozz]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I thought the thread was ironically leading in to say religious people struggle with basic grammar. I was mistaken.

ya, me to....you dont have to be a genious to know your right!!!

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I thought the thread was ironically leading in to say religious people struggle with basic grammar. I was mistaken.

Your expecting the same thing I am out of this thread I guess. Their are other people here who probably don't understand what your getting at.

[Boblobla]

Typing that was painful for me.

[Mike F]

Originally Posted by peter12

Sweet lord, how can anyone actually report these surveys as if they are some sort of relevant news? And you guys are a bunch of dumb clods for not being able to critically analyze them. An online survey of 322 students at a single university... are you kidding me?

Not passing judgment of the survey itself, but if you don't like research done on college students, you can throw out virtually every social science finding in the last century.

And 322 subjects, even from one university, isn't an unacceptable sample size in my experience.

[valo403]

The more staggering survey would be the likely 'lynch them' response you'd get if it was Americans being tortured.

[troutman]

There is a facebook club - "people that know the difference between your and you're"

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by troutman

There is a facebook club - "people that know the difference between your and you're"

Is there also one for people who know the difference between their, there and they're?

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Is there also one for people who know the difference between their, there and they're?

It might be a sub-committee.

[FiftyBelow]

Originally Posted by Daradon

You don't think it's at all telling that people who supposedly should be learning from prophets and saviors and trying to follow the goodness of god, are actually LESS likely to follow those types of teachings?

I mean isn't this what the religious right keeps telling us? That atheists and liberals have no morals? Yet they're more likely to snub their savoir's teachings?

I mean yeah, it's not highly scientific, nor is it a huge gap, but I really wish more people who constantly complain about the state of morality would take a good hard look in the mirror.

Religion isn't about values, and it isn't about doing what's right. It's about control. It always has been, and always will be. Whether it's controlling large nations, or just the people in your household. It's about getting people to do what you want to do and more importantly, think the way you want them to think.

The funny thing is when religion starts to have less influence on a society, you usually see more freedoms, fairness, and morality. Not less. If you're to afraid to look at examples close to home, you can at least look at the effect religion has in the middle east, and how it's used.

I bet they'd be ok with torture too.

By any chance have you been reading Nietzsche's On the Genealogy of Morality or have read it in the past?

[Ford Prefect]

Originally Posted by troutman

There is a facebook club - "people that know the difference between your and you're"

That's rediculous.