Saudi judge refuses to annul 8-year-old's marriage

[GirlySports]

Poor girl

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/...hild.marriage/

[Resolute 14]

I feel bad for any women suffering in such a society, regardless of age.

[peter12]

You go, Saudi Arabia!

[RougeUnderoos]

"It is incorrect to say that it's not permitted to marry off girls who are 15 and younger," Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Sheikh, the kingdom's grand mufti, said in remarks last January quoted in the regional Al-Hayat newspaper. "A girl aged 10 or 12 can be married. Those who think she's too young are wrong and they are being unfair to her."

Nice.

I wonder if he would call it "incorrect" to say that preverted old lunatics deserve to be shot and left in the desert.

[Thor]

So the kingdom is still in the dark ages, how long till the enlightenment begins in the Arab world.

[killer_carlson]

this just makes my stomach turn. Absolutely disgusting.

[GirlySports]

Thing is, I don't know who I'm more mad at. The father who has such debt that he has to sell off a daughter (people in debt with gambling problems for example will pretty much do anything to survive) or the guy who will actually take an eight year old girl at payment for a debt!

[onetwo_threefour]

Originally Posted by Thor

So the kingdom is still in the dark ages, how long till the enlightenment begins in the Arab world.

I agree with the sentiment, but strangely enough, it was actually the Arab world that preserved the learning of other civilizations during the European Dark Ages... I`m just saying...

[peter12]

Originally Posted by onetwo_threefour

I agree with the sentiment, but strangely enough, it was actually the Arab world that preserved the learning of other civilizations during the European Dark Ages... I`m just saying...

I think that leniency ran out about 400 years ago. Just saying...

[Jedi Ninja]

Thankfully, we have Dubai as an example of what a progressive Arab state can look like.

Or not: http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion...i-1664368.html

[HOZ]

I hope people are NOT shocked or surprised.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

this just makes my stomach turn. Absolutely disgusting.

Agreed.

As much as I try to understand that some cultures deserve the benefit of doubt I just can't get past some of the ######ed things some of these Muslim people do.

Public stonings/beheadings/hangings in front of kids,carving up women's private parts so they can't feel pleasure, hell even making the women cover 99% of their body's in sweltering heat is crazy.

No wonder I'm a religious racist.

[Thor]

Its why we have to stop forgiving all these wrong doings in the name of Islam, because these people are using it to hide behind.

So many writers like Hitchens, Harris and of course people like Rushdie are deeply worried about such backwards theocracy's becoming nuclear powers or of course Pakistan being taken over by extremists.

I've little doubt the next 100 years will only see more troubling times, our only hope is that secularism in Arab lands begins to happen as it has in places like Turkey. Mind you Turkey has lots of problems, but at least there's some modern ideals at work there.

Sadly even in North America there are so many apologetics for Islam and the Arab countries, so we don't just have to work to deal with the Arab countries but the apologetics here.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Thor

Its why we have to stop forgiving all these wrong doings in the name of Islam, because these people are using it to hide behind.

So many writers like Hitchens, Harris and of course people like Rushdie are deeply worried about such backwards theocracy's becoming nuclear powers or of course Pakistan being taken over by extremists.

I've little doubt the next 100 years will only see more troubling times, our only hope is that secularism in Arab lands begins to happen as it has in places like Turkey. Mind you Turkey has lots of problems, but at least there's some modern ideals at work there.

Sadly even in North America there are so many apologetics for Islam and the Arab countries, so we don't just have to work to deal with the Arab countries but the apologetics here.

I agree with everything you say except I'll put the over under at 15 years and I'll take the under.

[3 Justin 3]

Originally Posted by T@T

Agreed.

As much as I try to understand that some cultures deserve the benefit of doubt I just can't get past some of the ######ed things some of these Muslim people do.

Public stonings/beheadings/hangings in front of kids,carving up women's private parts so they can't feel pleasure, hell even making the women cover 99% of their body's in sweltering heat is crazy.

No wonder I'm a religious racist.

When I told this to my boss (he is from Syria), he went crazy and said they wear it because of choice and heritage. I know where they come from, so I let it go, but the stuff they tell me is shocking. I won't write about it because I don't know if it is true (but I don't doubt it), but it is quite graphic.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by 3 Justin 3

When I told this to my boss (he is from Syria), he went crazy and said they wear it because of choice and heritage. I know where they come from, so I let it go, but the stuff they tell me is shocking. I won't write about it because I don't know if it is true (but I don't doubt it), but it is quite graphic.

LOL, Ask him who's choice?

A lady I met who lost her husband told me it was the only thing she didn't miss about being married.

Fact is men treat their wifes like dogs. wait....probably worst than dogs.

[blankall]

I wonder how this law fits in with the other Sharia law about wives being unable to refuse sex from their husbands. Maybe they make an exception if the wife is 8?

Either way, having property rights like this over a human being is absolutely revolting.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by 3 Justin 3

When I told this to my boss (he is from Syria), he went crazy and said they wear it because of choice and heritage. I know where they come from, so I let it go, but the stuff they tell me is shocking. I won't write about it because I don't know if it is true (but I don't doubt it), but it is quite graphic.

That is such a fallacy. Undoubtedly, some DO choose to wear the thing. Others feel pressure either through cultural/social mores. What would happen if the CHOSE not to wear the thing? That should be the question asked.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Thor

So the kingdom is still in the dark ages, how long till the enlightenment begins in the Arab world.

Actually, it's kind of interesting...

As their new monothesitic god/savior/prophet is just under 1400 years old now, if you put that to Christian and Western timelines, that would put them in the ends of our dark ages. When our religion ruled and took advantage of everyone and everything. Was more powerful than the monarchies. Just like their cleric run the leaders now...

It's actually remarkably similar. That's why even though it really bugs me, and yeah it's evil and wrong, I hate people saying that they are dumb or stupid or we know so much better. Cause really their just doing what the west did.

Also, they had a similar golden age before monothesitic religion took over, much like the golden age in Greece where they had technologies and freedoms that we've just eclipsed over the last 150 years or so.

People are just people. Not making excuses for them. Just saying, take a good look at yourself in the mirror. There's not a whole lot of difference between you and those clerics down there. I can admit it.

We all have to help each other.

[shinyDark]

absolutely revolting. i am not sure what makes me more angry - the ruling by the judge, the father of the poor girl using her as cash, or the dude that accepted the child as payment for the debt owed... All 3 "men" should be strung up imo.