I just got fired...and I couldn't be happier!

[HPLovecraft]

Do people really use jobs they're fired at as a reference? Just burn the place down. Who cares about being amicable? What does amicable even mean? Tit for tat. If some crappy boss screws you over, the only logical thing to do is drag everyone you can down with you. Yes, you, yourself, suffer the dangers of working at a crappy job - being fired, being teated like crud, yelled at, made to work bad hours, etc, but the lesser known danger is being dragged through the mud with your crappy coworkers.

I say, have at 'em. They'll get through it, and be no less crappy for the effort.

[AvsJerk]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

Do people really use jobs they're fired at as a reference? Just burn the place down. Who cares about being amicable? What does amicable even mean? Tit for tat. If some crappy boss screws you over, the only logical thing to do is drag everyone you can down with you. Yes, you, yourself, suffer the dangers of working at a crappy job - being fired, being teated like crud, yelled at, made to work bad hours, etc, but the lesser known danger is being dragged through the mud with your crappy coworkers.

I say, have at 'em. They'll get through it, and be no less crappy for the effort.

Mods, please delete my previous post. I agree with HP, burn that motha' down!

[wittynickname]

Disregard GoPens--why must there be so many Pens fans that annoy me?

Unfortunately this is how some companies work, and I agree with a comment made earlier in the thread, chances are they made up some BS excuses about why they were firing you, but in reality, you probably made the most money, they want to boost their profits, easiest way to do that when you're not making sales is to get rid of higher paid employees. They can word it however they want, but it's a bottom-line only kind of move.

And even if it is just to strike fear into the heart of these kids, really, if I saw a long-tenured employee, who did his job well, get fired, I wouldn't be thinking "Oh man, I'd better bust my ass, I might be next." I would think "Well hell, if he can get fired, why should I work harder? They might fire me just for the hell of it too."

No matter the reason, it sounds like a ######tastic move to me.

[flip]

I was the highest paid hourly employee. I also just talked to one of my coworkers and they said it may have been the regional directory who put my boss up to firing me. Me and him have never got along.

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by flip

I was the highest paid hourly employee. I also just talked to one of my coworkers and they said it may have been the regional directory who put my boss up to firing me. Me and him have never got along.

Unfortunately, a lot of times they'll find something to use against you. It happened at a place I used to work, the GM of my store got frustrated, because he was a great guy, and actually treated us with respect, etc., and the District Manager came in and was whining about STUPID crap that didn't make a difference, and he flat out told her to calm down, it wasn't a big deal.

Within a year, they found a reason to fire him.

It's the way big corporations work way too often, it blows.

Originally Posted by KTrain

But if you're looking for someone on here to hire you (as you seem to be in your last paragraph), you're not really showing yourself to be a mature employee. I'm not trying to be a prick but most people running a business, or in a position to hire someone, are typically looking for someone that is responsible and mature.

I would suggest giving yourself a few days to calm down before doing anything you might regret later.

I disagree.

I think that if someone was looking to fill a position that was a good fit for Flip, they wouldn't discriminate against him for his (IMO well deserved) rant here on CP. Since I've been on here he's made some very intellectual/well thought out/well delivered posts (other than the occaisional "hookers and blow" comment, which I think everyone has been guilty of once or twice). I think he's one of the more well respected posters on CP.

Therefore a valuable member of CP=Valuable member of any organization that would employ him.

On the whole termination issue: I would apply for EI and tell them that they did not give you adequate counseling (verbal/written warnings) to give you the chance to improve "performance issues". Playing the radio at work does not deserve a firing for "just cause".

If the termination was effective immediately then they need to pay you out based on your years working there. (3bmonths-2 years= 1 week pay, 2years-4 years=2 weeks pay, 4-6 years= 4 weeks pay and so on)

I'm sorry they screwed you over. <hug>

[steveo]

i dunno, i wouldn't even say nothing about those workers to anyone. no point.
just move on with your life and forget about it. why bother even wasting energy to complain and (imo) look spiteful to get other people fired. "oh if im going down, i may as well drag everyone with me".

[llama64]

Wait... Catholics are lazy?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by llama64

Wait... Catholics are lazy?

No, of course not. There is a stereotype though that Catholics put family and God above work, while Protestants are more willing to dedicate time to employers even at the cost of their private and home lives.

[FurnaceFace]

If you're friends with the other staff, you'll of course be discussing this over a beer with some of them and the smart ones will head off to a different Mcjob. I wouldn't burn them, just let it happen naturally and let them make their own choice.

As a Flames fan, you'll feel better for not working there anyway.

[llama64]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

No, of course not. There is a stereotype though that Catholics put family and God above work, while Protestants are more willing to dedicate time to employers even at the cost of their private and home lives.

I know, I was just pointing out the assumption to be a dingus. A protestant work ethic is from the idea that working hard for your living is a Christian ideal. It has nothing to do with Catholics being lazy

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by llama64

I know, I was just pointing out the assumption to be a dingus. A protestant work ethic is from the idea that working hard for your living is a Christian ideal. It has nothing to do with Catholics being lazy

Weber agrees with you....

[devel]

nm

[psicodude]

As much fun as burning the place down may sound, I don't think it's a good idea for a 24 year old uni student to be burning bridges. These types of things have a knack of biting you in the ass at the worst times.

Forget the past, and focus on your next opportunity.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

Do people really use jobs they're fired at as a reference? Just burn the place down. Who cares about being amicable? What does amicable even mean? Tit for tat. If some crappy boss screws you over, the only logical thing to do is drag everyone you can down with you. Yes, you, yourself, suffer the dangers of working at a crappy job - being fired, being teated like crud, yelled at, made to work bad hours, etc, but the lesser known danger is being dragged through the mud with your crappy coworkers.

I say, have at 'em. They'll get through it, and be no less crappy for the effort.

Amazingly, you need good references. I think it's BS and that you should be able to get hired based on a strong resume, interview and probation period. But I've been told references are really important!

[FurnaceFace]

RE: References.

You need people you've worked with in the past who will verify what you say in the interview. You should prep your references with a list of strengths/weaknesses and examples of your top 3 or 4 "traits" or characteristics. If you said in the interview you were good at "working under pressure" you better have had an example to back that up and you better provide a summary of that example to your references. It just makes things smooth.

Also recognize in many cases you'll have a secret reference check as even in a city of a million people, the business community isn't that big and people will say "I know someone who worked at ___, I'll check and see if they know the prospect." I know I've been on both sides of that so it's something to be aware of. Basically, don't burn a bridge, you have no idea when it'll light up in your face.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

If some crappy boss screws you over, the only logical thing to do is drag everyone you can down with you.

So the guy gets canned and the "logical" thing to do is to get a bunch of coworkers, some he considers friends, fired? That doesn't really hang together.

The OP does seem kind of torn on the affair. He's happy he was fired, it's a great thing and all that, but he's pissed off and wants to take people with him. Which way is it?

If he really is happy he should be thinking "thanks for kicking me out, onward and upward for me from here on out", not "I'm so happy I'm going to do what I can to mess with as many people as possible to get even".

[cSpooge]

Originally Posted by Puxlut

I disagree.

I think that if someone was looking to fill a position that was a good fit for Flip, they wouldn't discriminate against him for his (IMO well deserved) rant here on CP. Since I've been on here he's made some very intellectual/well thought out/well delivered posts (other than the occaisional "hookers and blow" comment, which I think everyone has been guilty of once or twice). I think he's one of the more well respected posters on CP.

Therefore a valuable member of CP=Valuable member of any organization that would employ him.

On the whole termination issue: I would apply for EI and tell them that they did not give you adequate counseling (verbal/written warnings) to give you the chance to improve "performance issues". Playing the radio at work does not deserve a firing for "just cause".

If the termination was effective immediately then they need to pay you out based on your years working there. (3bmonths-2 years= 1 week pay, 2years-4 years=2 weeks pay, 4-6 years= 4 weeks pay and so on)

I'm sorry they screwed you over. <hug>

IIRC he is not due any payout because of being fired with cause.

[Titan]

Originally Posted by cSpooge

IIRC he is not due any payout because of being fired with cause.

Allegedly fired with cause.

Once he cools he may want to go back and give them a chance to revise their reasons to fire and pay a reasonable severance or he will go to employment standards and/or a lawyer, depending on all the fact to which we are not privy.

But my argument is that they didn't fire him for "just cause". A company needs to do what they can to rectify performance issues. Just cause usually covers illegal wrongdoings (theft, drug use...)

I'm not a lawyer or anything, it just might be worth it to file with EI and tell them your side of the story.