2009 NFL Off Season Thread - Page 33 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

burn_baby_burn · 03-31-2009, 03:46 PM

Mike Vick thinks he should be able to earn $10 million playing QB upon release from custody.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...urn=nfl,151410

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The embattled Atlanta Falcons quarterback is hoping to earn as much as $10 million a year or more, according to court filings in his bankruptcy case. Under the plan he submitted to the court, Vick would keep the first $750,000 of his annual income over the next five years. After that, a percentage would go to his creditors based on a sliding scale. [...]

Joborule · 03-31-2009, 08:37 PM

Looks like the Culter era in Denver is all but over.

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Originally Posted by Denver Broncos.com

Denver Broncos President and CEO Pat Bowlen today released the following statement:

"Numerous attempts to contact Jay Cutler in the last 10 days, both by Head Coach Josh McDaniels and myself, have been unsuccessful.

A conversation with his agent earlier today clearly communicated and confirmed to us that Jay no longer has any desire to play for the Denver Broncos.

We will begin discussions with other teams in an effort to accommodate his request to be traded.”

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.ph...4&storyID=8920

Way to go.

Wood · 03-31-2009, 08:40 PM

nm

Wood · 03-31-2009, 08:43 PM

Im hoping they trade him for a proven NFL QB or sign Garcia because drafting a QB is not the answer IMO.

transplant99 · 03-31-2009, 09:08 PM

Sorry...but Cutler is now officially one of the biggest prima donnas the NFL has.

Seriously dude....your feelings were hurt so now you wont even talk to the man that made you wealthy beyond your dreams? Show some damn respect. What a d-bag.

Displaced Flames fan · 03-31-2009, 09:26 PM

Well, they have to draft a QB whether they sign one or not.

Worst 3 months of being a sports fan I've ever experienced. It trumps the 7 playoffless years for the Flames by a good margin.

The Broncos will lose for years to come now. Every person involved in this drama should be ashamed of themselves.

Displaced Flames fan · 03-31-2009, 09:30 PM

I'm guessing the trade goes down tomorrow BTW. Pretty sure they've already had one worked out for a few days and were just giving Cutler one more chance to grow up.

Whatever they get, in terms of on the field talent, will come nowhere close to what they give up.

transplant99 · 03-31-2009, 09:36 PM

I think it has to include the Browns somehow...likely Anderson is my guess.

And that includes drafting a guy this year as well.

Joborule · 03-31-2009, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by transplant99

Sorry...but Cutler is now officially one of the biggest prima donnas the NFL has.

Seriously dude....your feelings were hurt so now you wont even talk to the man that made you wealthy beyond your dreams? Show some damn respect. What a d-bag.

Cutler is a huge baby with the way he acted. Heaven forbid you were in trade talks!!! I didn't know you we're untouchable and it's complete blasphemy to even consider the move.

But McDaniels is a major idiot for wanting to get rid of Cutler. What exactly was wrong with the Broncos offense? The only thing that needed work on you can say was the running backs. Everything else, especially the QB was perfectly fine. You don't put up the stats we had last season without an offense that can perform. Again I stress that if Broncos had ANY defense whatsoever, Broncos would have clinched the div easily and may have made a bit of noise in the playoffs. Shannahan would still be around and this drama wouldn't even occur.

What a joke from both parties.

Displaced Flames fan · 03-31-2009, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by transplant99

I think it has to include the Browns somehow...likely Anderson is my guess.

And that includes drafting a guy this year as well.

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I'll puke. Terrible QB with a terrible contract.

FurnaceFace · 03-31-2009, 09:54 PM

That Moats video is crazy. The cop is a little clueless, I think it was a nurse who says right to him she's coded and they need them (the father-in-law) up there to sign something and he's just 'uhhh, well, ok. This'll just take a minute' and goes back to running the license. At that point common sense should kick in and you should think "shinguard, this is bad and I'm making it worse" then say "Go deal with what you gotta deal with. I didn't know the situation, to me you were running a light. Now go on."

moon · 03-31-2009, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

I'm guessing the trade goes down tomorrow BTW. Pretty sure they've already had one worked out for a few days and were just giving Cutler one more chance to grow up.

Whatever they get, in terms of on the field talent, will come nowhere close to what they give up.

But you get a major upgrade in off field "talent" and the Patriots have shown that talent is not everything when it comes to winning and the Cowboys have shown that on field talent can mean nothing if the lockerroom is a mess.

Now obviously I don't think much of Cutler so I don't think the on field effect will be that bad but even if you do the NFL is the one league where losing a "star" isn't that terrible of a deal.

Displaced Flames fan · 03-31-2009, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by moon

But you get a major upgrade in off field "talent" and the Patriots have shown that talent is not everything when it comes to winning and the Cowboys have shown that on field talent can mean nothing if the lockerroom is a mess.

Now obviously I don't think much of Cutler so I don't think the on field effect will be that bad but even if you do the NFL is the one league where losing a "star" isn't that terrible of a deal.

All true, except when discussing the QB position. As I've said many times, 15-20 teams in this league are perpetually shuffling the deck trying to find a franchise QB. Denver just became one of those teams.

FlamingLonghorn · 03-31-2009, 10:14 PM

Jets please say no to Cutler...

Displaced Flames fan · 03-31-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sowa

Jets please say no to Cutler...

I don't think they can compete with some of the offers the Broncos will see from other teams. I think you're safe.

moon · 03-31-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

All true, except when discussing the QB position. As I've said many times, 15-20 teams in this league are perpetually shuffling the deck trying to find a franchise QB. Denver just became one of those teams.

I think the Broncos were one of those 15-20 teams with Cutler and especially now seeing his attitude I don't think they had a franchise guy at all.

Sainters7 · 03-31-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

All true, except when discussing the QB position. As I've said many times, 15-20 teams in this league are perpetually shuffling the deck trying to find a franchise QB. Denver just became one of those teams.

Agreed. I hear ya moon, but its a whole different can o' worms when talking about a QB. Especially a very young franchise QB. I seriously can't believe what a disaster this has turned out to be.

If Cutler ends up in Tampa Bay I'm going to do terrible things...

Displaced Flames fan · 03-31-2009, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by moon

I think the Broncos were one of those 15-20 teams with Cutler and especially now seeing his attitude I don't think they had a franchise guy at all.

Attitude, bad advice...whatever the case may be, if the situation that happened didn't ever come up it may never have been an issue.

The Broncos offense was #2 in the league last year. I don't see how that puts them in the bottom 2/3 in the league in QB play.

Displaced Flames fan · 03-31-2009, 10:42 PM

For the record, I'm going to predict that it is Minnesota that ends up getting him. Cleveland would be 2nd, and no scenario there makes me the least bit excited.

They need to draft a second tier QB this year and look for the franchise QB next year (Bradford).

J pold · 03-31-2009, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sowa

Jets please say no to Cutler...

Over at the Jets forum I regularly visit fans are really split on this issue. However I'm all for Cutler, I've always been impressed with him. I'm not a fan of how he acted during this whole saga but if the Jets can start next season with Pro-Bowl QB I'll be thrilled, I don't have much faith in either Clemens or Ratliff.

Please make this happen Tannenbaum.