Obama Deception

[metallicat]

I watched the start of it, but it has all the lookings of one of those government conspiracy videos surroundings events like the moon landing, and 9/11.

[photon]

Alex Jones is about all I need to know, source credibility is zero. Not saying the video is bad, but there'd have to be some pretty big positive proof that Alex Jones is making sense now in order to convince me to watch it.

[HotHotHeat]

^^^Far left conspiracies are wayyy more entertaining than this! (oilers fan)

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Tower

But you do bathe? I am asking you now to stop... Fine don't watch... Move along.

[Rathji]

The biggest problem I have with his videos is the sources he quotes are often from his own websites. Watch the video and next time a website comes up, go to it and it is either his website or blogs/websites that almost exclusively contains his articles reposted.

How can you claim any legitimacy when the only media you can find to support your claims is self published?

[Hemi-Cuda]

i just came here to say i hate this video and it's premise without watching it. sorry

[Bobblehead]

I guess I'm going to need to find out who Alex Jones is.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

I guess I'm going to need to find out who Alex Jones is.

Here is a head start.

http://www.infowars.com/

Some of the stuff he says makes sense, but most of it is spouted off as absolute fact when it clearly is just supposition. He complains about government propaganda and then does the same thing himself. He will quote a bill that is designed to strip Americans of X right or a policy that will give Y power to some government agency, but then his only references are either websites he has created or a few lines of a bill that spell impending doom according to him, but seems totally unrelated when I read it.

The only thing he says that makes any sense whatsoever is the fact that people with money control the government. This isn't a big surprise to me personally.

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by Tower

http://sheepsociety.blogspot.com/

I'm looking for positive debate not idiot comments after watching the video... Not your BS and wise cracking from the usual suspects.

12:15 a good one\
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Like Ann Coulter, Alex Jones seems to be very skilled at separating the desperately gullible from their money.

Being an arch-capitalist, I salute that skill.

Very impressive as well that it only took a few months for conspiracy theorists like Jones - who depend upon paranoia for their income - to complete a 180 flip, connect the dots and begin mining for gold, even if using as unlikely a target as Obama.

Cowperson

[Hack&Lube]

Biased propagandist conspiracy videos usually have very little legitimacy in the eyes of CP and most other places and you are just going to be laughed at.

At 2 hours, it's much too long for people to watch casually on a message board and then debate. We aren't in class here.

If you want to debate this, summarize the video and provide your own insights and explanations so people have a starting ground to go on.

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On second thought...here I googled it.

Originally Posted by Crazy Conspiracy Nutjobs

The Obama Deception, a new Alex Jones documentary, is a hard-hitting piece, full of details on how Barack H. Obama is secretly controlled by an international ring of bankers and businessmen. This ring of terrorists and thugs is the same Illumunati group who seeks to start a New World Order. They’ve already hi-jacked our world and are in full control.

Obama, as the newly-elected President of the United States, through their intervention and control, is the Illumaniti new posterchild and puppet. At least, this is how director Alex Jones paints the picture for his documentary viewers. And with my own independent studies and sources, I would have to wholeheartedly agree.

I genienly believe President Barack Obama to be a good man inside, but I feel he is seeking his moments of fame and power, which the international bankers are taking advantage of. The banksters already control him and this is made apparent in The Obama Deception.

Alex Jones shows many important things, including Barack Obama’s true agenda in office. Here is 9 points listed in the film:

1. Bring the United States under the control of a powerful offshore super bank known as the Bank of the World.

The agenda includes thousands of taxes on everyday items, including, but not limited to, lightbulbs, water, meat, travel, and carbon taxes on every man, woman, and child. They will use global warming and climate change hoax as tools to trick Americans into paying more taxes than ever before. The collected taxes will be poured into the offshore super bank, straight into the pockets of the super wealthy who rule this planet.

2. Institute a Civilian National Security Force and Youth Brigades with a 1 million-plus membership.

Rahm Emanuel, Obama’s right-hand man, is fully supporting and helping to push through legislation to start this civilian force that will report directly to the President of the United States, whether it be Obama or another puppet working directly for the banksters. The website USAService.org is a front for recruiting members into this civilian security force.

Membership and participation will be mandatory for all American citizens ages 18 to 24, and may be extended to senior citizens and other working adults. Not matter your age, don’t expect to get out of service easily. Regardless, our youth will be conscripted for service and forced into a physical slavery our country hasn’t seen since the times of Abraham Lincoln.

3. Disarm and control the guns in America.

Obama operatives in the Congress have already introduced 10 bills, if passed, will strip Americans of their 2nd Amendment rights to bare and arm weapons for security, protection, and defense. This is a direct attack on the Constitution of the United States of America. White House Chief-of-Staff Rahm Emanuel and U.S Attorney General Eric Holder are big supporters of the proposed legislation and want Americans to never pick up a weapon again.

4. Massive restrictions on the 1st Amendment of free speech.

The President, Congress, and the FCC have announced plans to limit speech on radio, television, and the internet. They are calling this agenda “fairness in speech.”

5. Federalize health care in America.

The federal government, with this agenda, will be able to dictate what kind of health care each citizen is to receive, when they can have their medicines, and be further taxed on providing a national health care system. It will be modeled after the British health care system and restrict what kind of medical procedures can be provided to patients.

6. Expand the efforts of the Department of Defense.

Obama wants to expand the reach of the U.S. military by encircling Russia, China, and Africa. Americans will be further taxed and their money poured into the U.S. war machine to impose the international bankers’ rule of law on other countries. Expect to see Africacom (United States Africa Command) and Africans employed in mandatory military service by President Obama, or his successor.

7. Radically expand federal control over family farms and ranches.

8. Accelerate the merger of Canada, Mexico, and America as the North American Union.

9. Obama must pay the part of President of the United States to serve the bankers’ agenda.

There is so much useful knowledge in this documentary, it’s hard to write about it all. For those who regularly follow Alex Jones, his websites, and his talk show, much of this information you’ve already read or heard. However, it’s a great documentary for those who have no idea that Obama is the puppet President of the Illumunati.

The most important Documentary of the 21st century is The Obama Deception. In the Beginning section of the Film, The Anglo America Empire being the New World Order. On the Face of it, it might sound appealing to People of the West. We share a common Language and we have a lot similarities and values.

That part might compel a lot of people to keep on watching, but when they find out that the New American Empire is screwing it’s people with the leaders having no National Allegiance or love of American Sovereignty, they are going to want to join the freedom truther patriots of Peace.

This Film can be marketed and titled in Infinite ways, because it brings the whole picture together. Dear God Almighty Please have everyone in the world watch The Obama Deception and have it as a catalyst bless us all. Thank You for the Holy Ghost working through all of us to have a reality we can all believe in. Thank You Lord For true Hope that is Changing things for the better.

[The Yen Man]

Is this the same guy who did Endgame? I only watched it because someone posted it on CP awhile back. I'll admit it was actually pretty entertaining, but of course, I don't buy any of it. The music was funky though. I'll probably give this a go too when I get home tonight. Meh, why not right? It keeps me entertained heh.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

Is this the same guy who did Endgame? I only watched it because someone posted it on CP awhile back. I'll admit it was actually pretty entertaining, but of course, I don't buy any of it. The music was funky though. I'll probably give this a go too when I get home tonight. Meh, why not right? It keeps me entertained heh.

Same guy as EndGame, Loose Change and some others.

[photon]

So if this group already controls the world, why are they seeking to establish a new world order?

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by photon

So if this group already controls the world, why are they seeking to establish a new world order?

More control is better? Maybe they want employee discount pricing at GM and Ford?

[Bob]

8. Accelerate the merger of Canada, Mexico, and America as the North American Union.

Haha, good one.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by photon

So if this group already controls the world, why are they seeking to establish a new world order?

If you dig deep enough into any claim of an international banking cartel controlling world affairs, you will normally find the same old anti-Semitism.

[Bobblehead]

It is economic periods like this when I am so glad that Canada has its own financial system.

[REDVAN]

Originally Posted by crazy guys

Originally Posted by Crazy Conspiracy Nutjobs

1. Bring the United States under the control of a powerful offshore super bank known as the Bank of the World.

2. Institute a Civilian National Security Force and Youth Brigades with a 1 million-plus membership.

3. Disarm and control the guns in America.

4. Massive restrictions on the 1st Amendment of free speech.

5. Federalize health care in America.

6. Expand the efforts of the Department of Defense.

7. Radically expand federal control over family farms and ranches.

8. Accelerate the merger of Canada, Mexico, and America as the North American Union.

9. Obama must pay the part of President of the United States to serve the bankers’ agenda.

3, 5, 6, 8 aren't really that bad... and the rest are just CRAZY!

[ok, ok,....I get it]

[Azure]

Sure, some of the things he brings up are valid.....but come on, we're talking about the same guy who thinks the US government orchestrated 9/11.

I refuse to believe any 'point' he has to make. I can find the stuff he mentions about Obama that is actually valid somewhere else.