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Rerun · 03-26-2009, 04:29 PM

I'm sure these thugs will be severly reprimanded by the court system, perhaps placed on house arrest, and have their video game priveledges revoked for a couple of months...
THAT should really teach them a good lesson!

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/sto...k-arrests.html

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Two teens have been charged in connection with a string of violent assaults and robberies of Calgary taxi drivers.
Police said Thursday that they arrested two males at separate northeast locations Wednesday, and are looking for two others.
A 15-year-old has been charged with six counts of robbery while a 16-year-old faces seven counts of robbery. Neither teen can be named under the Youth Criminal Justice Act.

Boblobla · 03-26-2009, 04:38 PM

There was a stabbing right by my house today too.

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc...ub=CalgaryHome

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Police are investigating a stabbing in Ranchlands.
It happened Thursday morning at a home on Ranchero Place N.W.
An 18-year-old man was rushed to hospital in life-threatening condition from a stab wound.
Police say two men approached the 18-year-old in the home and stabbed him.
The two then took off in a dark blue sports car.
A 14-year-old boy was also in the home at the time. He ran to a neighbour's house for help.
Police are investigating but don't know the motive for the stabbing at this point.

CaptainCrunch · 03-26-2009, 04:40 PM

And people wonder shy I don't trust teenagers.

Jude · 03-26-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

And people wonder shy I don't trust teenagers.

Kind of reminds me of those wanted posters around campus warning of a sex offender who is described as, "20 something year old male caucasian, average height, average build, brown hair, brown eyes"...beware!

Locke · 03-26-2009, 05:58 PM

You know what this city needs? More teen violence. I mean, they're young, they can take it. They'll heal. Then you can beat them to a pulp again.

CaptainCrunch · 03-26-2009, 08:23 PM

When I was growing up there was a lot of fear of consequences. The first time I got bought home in a police cruiser, to be honest I had the holy hell beaten out of me by the old man, and I didn't turn into a serial killer.

When I was getting bad marks in school, there were consequences.

I knew, that I had to listen to my parents or there was going to be trouble.

In todays Liberalized society everyone keeps saying we need to look for root causes for youth crime.

How about, quite trying to be the cool parent to your kid, or being their bestest friend in the whole wide world and set boundries and consequences.

Don't send your little JD to his room for a time out, send him outside for some hard and meaningfull labour, take away his . Lay down an ass paddling.

Society and authority figures have failed children nowadays. Being forgiving and soft on these kids has fostered a permissive atmosphere where adults are afraid or unwilling to be parents because they're worried about their little darlings calling the cops, or they have other priorities instead of raising their kids.

My dad always said after I grew up that he learned early that his job when I was growing up wasn't to be my buddy or my friend first and foremost. His job was to give me a system of morals, give me a tool kit to survive and function in society, make sure that my ungratefull ass had clothing and food. Once I was the hell out of his house we could be buddies.

And hey look, I don't strangle kittens.

These kids need prison time, hard labour, and some solid corporal punishment, and it should hurt them as much as it hurts their parents.

The Fonz · 03-26-2009, 08:28 PM

Sort of OT, but related to CC's post about suffering the consequences.

Once when I was a kid, I told my dad to "shut the F up"...to this day I've never seen a man put a steel toe boot on that quick.

I'm sure you can guess where he put it...

Barnes · 03-26-2009, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Fonz

Sort of OT, but related to CC's post about suffering the consequences.

Once when I was a kid, I told my dad to "shut the F up"...to this day I've never seen a man put a steel toe boot on that quick.

I'm sure you can guess where he put it...

On his foot?

Have things honestly changed? When I was a kid, there were other kids who didn't fear anything and there were some that did.

CaptainCrunch · 03-26-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Fonz

Sort of OT, but related to CC's post about suffering the consequences.

Once when I was a kid, I told my dad to "shut the F up"...to this day I've never seen a man put a steel toe boot on that quick.

I'm sure you can guess where he put it...

If I had done that, my old man would have kicked me through the roof and into orbit, one that I wouldn't have come down from yet.

I still remember when I was 15 I lost my temper and hit one of my older sisters just as my dad came around the corner. He looked at me and cleared his throat and signaled me to meet him in the back yard, and I knew that I had screwed up in a big huge way and I was going to pay.

Its not like the old man was some abusive cold ogre, he was a great dad in a lot of ways. He's still one of the smarter men that I know, he's worked hard to give me breaks and he taught me a lot. He instilled a good work ethic in me, and he wasn't a physically intimidating guy at 5'8.

However due to being raised in a crazed dysfunctional single mother home where it was acceptable to be kicked out at the age of 14 my old man had a certain sense of crisis prevention and you didn't want to let him go, because he firmly believed in the price.

ratech · 03-26-2009, 08:51 PM

I called my Mom a b1tch once and she wouldn't do a thing for me until I apologized. It took a month. My Dad told me he would throw me through the Fn wall once when I needed it. He didn't, but he would to give it to me good sometimes when I did. Love my parents.

SteveToms · 03-26-2009, 08:53 PM

I agree with both Captain and Barnes, Captain is right on the fact a lot of parents suck these days, choosing to blame the TV, video games and the like. But then Barnes does bring up a good point, teenagers have always rebelled but in today`s media 24/7 world more stuff gets reported, making us more aware of the problems. Nonetheless, parents still need to do a better job today.

Yes, I am aware I am only 24.

The Fonz · 03-26-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

If I had done that, my old man would have kicked me through the roof and into orbit, one that I wouldn't have come down from yet.

I was in the backyard when I said it, and when I saw him coming for me I ran for cover in my fort. Problem is, the door to this fort was only 2 ft high so I had to crawl inside. I was on my hands and knees crawling by the time he caught up to me and punted me square in the ass.

I laugh about it now though, could you imagine being a neighbor and witnessing that?

Hemi-Cuda · 03-26-2009, 09:46 PM

i had the benefit of watching my older brother be the loud mouth teenage jackass, and how my dad had to smarten him up. i still did stupid things, but not once did i ever mouth off to one of my parents

C Squared · 03-26-2009, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

When I was growing up there was a lot of fear of consequences. The first time I got bought home in a police cruiser, to be honest I had the holy hell beaten out of me by the old man, and I didn't turn into a serial killer.

When I was getting bad marks in school, there were consequences.

I knew, that I had to listen to my parents or there was going to be trouble.

In todays Liberalized society everyone keeps saying we need to look for root causes for youth crime.

How about, quite trying to be the cool parent to your kid, or being their bestest friend in the whole wide world and set boundries and consequences.

Don't send your little JD to his room for a time out, send him outside for some hard and meaningfull labour, take away his . Lay down an ass paddling.

Society and authority figures have failed children nowadays. Being forgiving and soft on these kids has fostered a permissive atmosphere where adults are afraid or unwilling to be parents because they're worried about their little darlings calling the cops, or they have other priorities instead of raising their kids.

My dad always said after I grew up that he learned early that his job when I was growing up wasn't to be my buddy or my friend first and foremost. His job was to give me a system of morals, give me a tool kit to survive and function in society, make sure that my ungratefull ass had clothing and food. Once I was the hell out of his house we could be buddies.

And hey look, I don't strangle kittens.

These kids need prison time, hard labour, and some solid corporal punishment, and it should hurt them as much as it hurts their parents.

Very well said! That's the same way I was brought up and I'm glad I was. I'm sick of parents not taking any action.

PsYcNeT · 03-27-2009, 08:05 AM

In my experience (being 25) I've found that in my generation, the kids with the super-cool parents ended up being extremely stodgy, stick-up-the-ass prudential types, while the ones with hard-ass old-school parents ended up drug addicts and whores.

I'd say it's more about finding a medium.

But that's just me.

Bobblehead · 03-27-2009, 08:39 AM

There is no single way that will work for every child. Kids (and all people) are unique and some need strong boundaries and others to be pushed to find their boundaries.

Some methods will work better for more people, but there isn't one that will work all people.

But it sounds like this whole discussion will come back to the "nature vs nurture" debate, and personally I think nature has a large bearing on how much affect nurturing can have. Some people will be brilliant or evil regardless of what the parents do; while other people are a direct result of their upbringing.

ok, ok,....I get it · 03-27-2009, 09:26 AM

I have to wonder if voilent crimes are on the increase or if the reporting of them is on the increase, I listened to a fella on the radio (CBC, it was a moment of weakness) and he had completed some research that said the child abduction, etc. are no greater now than in 1950ish.... the main difference is the reporting of these activities is wider and quicker. There was a time when you did not hear/read about violence if it was outside a 100 km radius......I am not sure the world is more violent

CaptainCrunch · 03-27-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ok, ok,....I get it

I have to wonder if voilent crimes are on the increase or if the reporting of them is on the increase, I listened to a fella on the radio (CBC, it was a moment of weakness) and he had completed some research that said the child abduction, etc. are no greater now than in 1950ish.... the main difference is the reporting of these activities is wider and quicker. There was a time when you did not hear/read about violence if it was outside a 100 km radius......I am not sure the world is more violent

I don't think the crime statistics are especially accurate. I would be willing to bet that the number of unreported crimes has sky rocketed over the last 5 years.

GreenTeaFrapp · 03-27-2009, 09:31 AM

We just need to clone SuperNanny and have her running all the schools.

ok, ok,....I get it · 03-27-2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I don't think the crime statistics are especially accurate. I would be willing to bet that the number of unreported crimes has sky rocketed over the last 5 years.

why do you think that......I think the number of unreported crimes, smash and grabs on cars, theft may be the case, but we are talking voilent crimes