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Coach · 03-21-2009, 09:08 AM

for the first few dates I would pay. But its not like its not nice to be offered. I think once youve established the relationship as a "couple" you split these things, unless its a special occasion

old-fart · 03-21-2009, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

You're over-analyzing. Pay for the first dinner, then go dutch or get her to pay on the second. It's a sign of respect.

Plus, your chances of getting laid increase tenfold. Guaranteed.

and that's why the first date should always be at Timmy's.

blankall · 03-21-2009, 10:02 AM

Yeah, always pay for the first date at least. Unless it is going horribly wrong. I had a friend who went on a date with a guy she was not really interested in. The date went horribly. At the end the guy payed his half and left. She felt like she was entitled to a free dinner for gracing this guy with her presence.

She was way off field. If the girl is acting like a @#@@# don't pay. If you have any intention of furthering the relationship in any way then always pay.

Machiavelli · 03-21-2009, 10:10 AM

I always offer to pay, but then again I've always been uncomfortable with someone paying for me. If they do, I always find a way to get them back (i.e. pay for the next meal if there is one).

I think I'm a bit paranoid about owing people money.

llama64 · 03-21-2009, 10:35 AM

Depends who asked who out for the date.

It's the same as any other social engagement. If I ask a girl out for dinner, I should expect to pay for the privilege of her presence. If a girl asked me out for a date, it's on her to pay. If a girl invites me out to an expensive place and then expects me to foot the bill, then chances are she's looking for a sugar daddy and isn't worth the air she breaths.

People needlessly complicate these things.

Sainters7 · 03-21-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

You're over-analyzing. Pay for the first dinner, then go dutch or get her to pay on the second. It's a sign of respect.

Plus, your chances of getting laid increase tenfold. Guaranteed.

Agreed. I'm definitely not of the mindset that the man should have to pay for EVERY dinner. But first date of course you pay for dinner, and actually everything else you do that day/night with her, for that matter. I'd actually feel like a bum if she paid for anything on the first date. I guess I'm just old-fashioned that way.

Eastern Girl · 03-21-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Machiavelli

I always offer to pay, but then again I've always been uncomfortable with someone paying for me. If they do, I always find a way to get them back (i.e. pay for the next meal if there is one).

I think I'm a bit paranoid about owing people money.

I'm the same way. I hate owing people money and feeling like I haven't paid my share. I am not a big fan of someone getting this check and me getting the next, because then I am thinking about owing that person, and I really hate that.

Also - when I was just coming on to the dating scene, a guy paid for my dinner (I offered to pay, he said no), and then later he basically pulled out the old "You have to "do things" with me because I paid for your dinner" card.

I always offer, at least, to pick up my half.

CaptainCrunch · 03-21-2009, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Locke

I've found that having the first date in my basement helps keep the costs down.

Well at least you'd get a nice skin dress out of the whole thing.

It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.

On a serious note, I guess I'm kinda old school but I'd feel awkward about bill splitting on a date.

I pay for dates, she pays for other dates, its all cosmic balance.

Flame Of Liberty · 03-21-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

You're over-analyzing. Pay for the first dinner, then go dutch or get her to pay on the second. It's a sign of respect.

Plus, your chances of getting laid increase tenfold. Guaranteed.

Respect? By making her feel dependent* on the guy and his wallet?

Seems like two girls (Mach and EG) agree with me

* probably a wrong word, but cant think of a better one

Flame Of Liberty · 03-21-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Well at least you'd get a nice skin dress out of the whole thing.

It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.

On a serious note, I guess I'm kinda old school but I'd feel awkward about bill splitting on a date.

I pay for dates, she pays for other dates, its all cosmic balance.

You know that if you buy the woman you dont need to pay for the dates anymore? Subscription is always cheaper that individual issues.

REDVAN · 03-21-2009, 11:48 AM

The girl I am dating now "offered" to pay her share on the first date (which I declined).

Previous girls have been cut so fast because they expected me to pay for dinner when I'd never really even met them before (online dating). The easiest way on the world for me to cut you, is for you to think you are better than you are. Bitch please.

burn_this_city · 03-21-2009, 11:55 AM

I always try to pay regardless. If they offer to pay after the first couple of dates I let them get a cheaper meal like lunch. Only cheapskates try and make chicks pay on dates.

Locke · 03-21-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Well at least you'd get a nice skin dress out of the whole thing.

It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.

On a serious note, I guess I'm kinda old school but I'd feel awkward about bill splitting on a date.

I pay for dates, she pays for other dates, its all cosmic balance.

Those things are very hard to come by commercially you know.

I also tend to pay on the first date, but I also like it when the girl at least offers to pay.

Jetsfan · 03-21-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dion

http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle...dinner_bu.html

Uhm..being courted does mean that you accept the traditional lifestyle. You can not have it both ways.

Igottago · 03-21-2009, 12:27 PM

Why do people go for dinner on a first date anyways? I'd much rather go for a few drinks at a place with a decent atmosphere. Keep it light. This way the date is less expensive too, so the guy should have no reservations about paying.

I'd rather eat a full meal with people I already know, than sit there chowing down while trying to converse with someone new.

CaptainCrunch · 03-21-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Igottago

Why do people go for dinner on a first date anyways? I'd much rather go for a few drinks at a place with a decent atmosphere. Keep it light. This way the date is less expensive too, so the guy should have no reservations about paying.

I'd rather eat a full meal with people I already know, than sit there chowing down while trying to converse with someone new.

At least thats a plus one to me, with dinner, your kinda stuck if it starts going bad. With something with a non linear time line either party can bail if its you know bad.

Just don't do coffee during the day, thats the sure ride to the friendship non sex bubble.

Cowboy89 · 03-21-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

I actually write columns for mens magazines about this stuff.

Wanna get laid? Pay for the damn dinner.

Agreed. It's not very Alpha to insist on going Dutch on a first date. Also don't be a cheap screw when it comes to the tip. Being cheap with money always communicates pettyness to women.

I say insist on paying the bill on the first date and suggest paying the next couple of times. If she's more than happy to get free meals out of you and doesn't offer to go dutch at any point, find another girl. Rinse, lather, repeat.

missdpuck · 03-21-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Igottago

Why do people go for dinner on a first date anyways? I'd much rather go for a few drinks at a place with a decent atmosphere. Keep it light. This way the date is less expensive too, so the guy should have no reservations about paying.

I'd rather eat a full meal with people I already know, than sit there chowing down while trying to converse with someone new.

I agree. I don't think going to dinner is a good way to get to know someone. If I hang out with a guy a few times and then he asks me to dinner...great. That means we already like eachother, and that if he pays he would probably already realize I'm not after a free meal, and he's not just out to get laid. I don't feel offended if the guy pays. I'm already so ultra-independent in every other area of my life it's nice to feel pampered once in a while. And some guys get a little offended if I offer to pay, it's like they want to be nice but I'm not letting them. So it depends on the situation. And yeah I know guys like to be pampered too so I think it's a matter of give and take.

TheyCallMeBruce · 03-21-2009, 01:00 PM

I usually convince the girl to play a dangerous game of dine and ditch with me. It usually ends with me driving away in the getaway car in panic and leaving her behind.

missdpuck · 03-21-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheyCallMeBruce

I usually convince the girl to play a dangerous game of dine and ditch with me. It usually ends with me driving away in the getaway car in panic and leaving her behind.

Excuse me I have to go to the rest room.....