03-19-2009, 03:01 PM
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She needs to talk to the manager and if the guy is not fired on the spot she should take it higher. There is a certain level of professionalism that is required when working at a business that has private information about somebody. As soon as that line has been crossed then it needs to be dealt with immediately.
If the guy had any kind of interest in her he should have talked to her directly. Not be a loser and try to use her 'private' information to contact her.
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03-19-2009, 03:01 PM
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Um yes, I would draw the line at all those places.
For now all we know is he sent her an unknown number of texts which may or may not have stopped with content we know nothing about. I wouldn't say it's time to get this guy in trouble with his employer and the law just yet.
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He illegally accessed her information and used that information to perform unwanted harassment. Either one of those actions warrants contacting his employer, both of those actions together require some heads to roll.
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03-19-2009, 03:03 PM
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1. Tell her to get him to meet 'her' at a very public location.
2. Discreetly tar and feather.
3. Point, laugh, and humiliate
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03-19-2009, 03:04 PM
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I'm too lazy to look, but it wouldn't surprise me if some of you guys acting all high and mighty about this privacy BS are the same guys that brag about speeding on Deerfoot. Speeding on Deerfoot can get people killed, hitting on a girl is harmless (again, I'm saying that while assuming the texts stopped after she asked them to).
The intent of these privacy laws surely aren't to stop harmless flirting. And yes, a couple of texts to a girl to tell her you like her is harmless. She should be flattered, not freaked.
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03-19-2009, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DESS
The intent of these privacy laws surely aren't to stop harmless flirting. And yes, a couple of texts to a girl to tell her you like her is harmless. She should be flattered, not freaked.
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I'm sorry, its harassment.
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03-19-2009, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DESS
Thanks for the warning.
Regarding your post, though, I think one text from the guy would have been fine if he was getting the right vibe from your sister; however, after she told him she wasn't interested it should have stopped. Very creepy indeed.
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Ah, the good ol' "She was totally coming onto me" defence (Freeing Creeps and Rapists since, well, FOREVER!)...
Regardless of what "vibe" she was giving off, unless she explicitly says "Hey Cellphone guy, I would like to go out with you sometime, please text me", it's wrong for him to text her. Period. So, no, ONE text isn't fine, unless she asked him to text her. She didn't provide her phone number to make a personal connection, she provided it as part of a business transaction.
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03-19-2009, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherGuy
She needs to talk to the manager and if the guy is not fired on the spot she should take it higher. There is a certain level of professionalism that is required when working at a business that has private information about somebody. As soon as that line has been crossed then it needs to be dealt with immediately.
If the guy had any kind of interest in her he should have talked to her directly. Not be a loser and try to use her 'private' information to contact her.
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I highly doubt they're being briefed on the Privacy Act before they're let loose on the sales floor. If I owned a cell phone store and my employee showed up just not stinking like booze I'd probably be ahead of the game.
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03-19-2009, 03:08 PM
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At least he didn't use the ultra romantic sending her a picture of my junk through tex messaging approach.
Or sending her a movie of his famous penis dance to the song "Who let the dogs out"
Cause I can tell you, that really doesn't work with strangers.
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03-19-2009, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DESS
I highly doubt they're being briefed on the Privacy Act before they're let loose on the sales floor. If I owned a cell phone store and my employee showed up just not stinking like booze I'd probably be ahead of the game.
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Even if they're not being "briefed" I think its common sense.
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03-19-2009, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DESS
The intent of these privacy laws surely aren't to stop harmless flirting. And yes, a couple of texts to a girl to tell her you like her is harmless. She should be flattered, not freaked.
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The intent is to prevent people from using our personal information in ways we have not previously given explicit permission for. If nothing else, the employer is at fault for not educating his staff, who have access to private information, about the proper, legally acceptable uses of that information.
If this was only about unwanted flirting, it would be another story, but there is so much more that went wrong here than a loser who sent a text to a girl he didn't know and begged for a date.
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I highly doubt they're being briefed on the Privacy Act before they're let loose on the sales floor.
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They MUST be educated about it, or the employer is liable for not doing teaching them. These are the costs of doing business.
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03-19-2009, 03:10 PM
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Had an idea!
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Uhhh, she gave him her cell phone to 'fix' it.....not that he could take her number and start texting her.
Nevermind the privacy act.....which he is indeed violating, if she said no, and has told him to stop texting her, and he doesn't stop.....get the cops after him too.
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03-19-2009, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Rathji
The intent is to prevent people from using our personal information in ways we have not previously given explicit permission for. If nothing else, the employer is at fault for not educating his staff, who have access to private information, about the proper, legally acceptable uses of that information.
If this was only about unwanted flirting, it would be another story, but there is so much more that went wrong here than a loser who sent a text to a girl he didn't know and begged for a date.
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Exactly, if he had just flirted in store and in person, we wouldn't have a legal issue.
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03-19-2009, 03:15 PM
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I think the real issue here is how pathetic this guy is - he's too much of a weiner to ask her out or flirt in person so he waits until she leaves the store and then texts her?
Did he actually think that would work? Even with the most desperate girls?
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03-19-2009, 03:15 PM
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I seriously can't believe, yet again, not one of you guys will back me up. If this thread started like this, I wonder what the responses would have been:
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Hey guys, long-time reader, first-time poster. I'm hoping you can help me out with a little situation (sorry about making a dreaded "girl thread" lol).
I work at a cell phone store and this really cute girl has been in a couple of times. We were chatting and joking around while she was in and actually had a pretty good time. I should have asked her out while she was here, but it wasn't until after she left that a bunch of the guys here were like "dude, she was totally into you." It kind of validated how I was feeling about the situation and I'm pretty sure we did have some sort of connection.
I have her phone number on the work order here and am thinking of texting her a little message. What do you guys think, should I go for it?
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03-19-2009, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DESS
You guys are freaking out way too hardcore on this. I really don't think this guy needs the privacy commission hounding him or to be fired, provided the texts have stopped.
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I agree. There's too much legal action in this world as it is. Getting the privacy commissioner on this because of a sheepish attempt to get a date is where things are going too far. Where do you draw the line? How about at over-reacting and potentially ruining a guy's life because a girl got creeped out by a few text messages. I really don't think people realize that these sorts of things can ruin someone's life. Think he's a creep? stop and ask yourself something. "How many times has a girl ever thought I was a creep, but didn't tell me so I never knew". There are a ton of girls out there who get creeped out at fairly innocent things. It would be right for that girls' brother to step in and scold the guy. It would be wrong to get the guy labeled a potential sex offender for the rest of his natural life because he may have been too nervous to ask her out.
People on the internet really disturb me sometimes. They just don't think.
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03-19-2009, 03:16 PM
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I used to work at a bank that was incredible for the girls that frequented the place. Dated two customers, got phone numbers of a few others. But always did it outside of the branch. Man it was tempting though. A few times I wanted to call just to say "how's your account" haha... Never did though. I used the till as my personal cash box though, "I need a coffee, I'll pay this back later" haha. Sweet!
On topic! Totally creepy!!
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03-19-2009, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DESS
I seriously can't believe, yet again, not one of you guys will back me up. If this thread started like this, I wonder what the responses would have been:
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Don't it's illegal.
End Thread.
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03-19-2009, 03:18 PM
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Well, for a moment I play DESS's advocate here.
Let me preface this by saying this is super creepy, and I do not endorse this behaviour at all.
HOWEVER
In today's electronic age we cannot expect privacy so simply any longer. People can find us, and anything about us with a mouse click and some creative Google-ing. To freak out that someone has your phone number is pretty, well, old-fashioned.
I think alot of people are getting worked up about this because they think a text-message is more personal than a phone call. It's not.
Part of the technology trade-off is having our lives, personalities, relationships, and personal information be much more open and accessable than it ever was. These are the truths of the future we have to accept as a society, because we made this bed, so we must lay in it.
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03-19-2009, 03:18 PM
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#39
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Call the police.
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03-19-2009, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DESS
I seriously can't believe, yet again, not one of you guys will back me up. If this thread started like this, I wonder what the responses would have been:
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I don't think it's a huge deal that he texted her once. Despite the fact that it makes him look like a desperate loser, and it would never work with any self-respecting girl.
I mean sure it's a violation of her privacy and whatever but it's not like he showed up at her workplace or home, he sent (presumably) one text message.
But if he did in fact continue to text her after she asked him to stop, that's crossing the line.
I seriously hope that the guy in question is a CP member and responds to this thread.
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