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Old 03-11-2009, 08:02 AM   #1
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Wow, bad couple of days...

http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/World/20...1/8708516.html

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A 17-year-old gunman dressed in black opened fire at his former high school in southwestern Germany on Wednesday, killing at least 15 people before police shot him to death, state officials said.
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The police open fire killed one other person as well.
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Just read about this, some others are injured as well. Horrible.
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Old 03-11-2009, 09:20 AM   #4
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About "those crazy religious germans and their reprehensible love of guns that is the root of all of this". This could never happen in Europe or Canada because we are sooooo above that.

Because after all it is their lack of enlightenment by not having strict gun control laws and going to church that obviously caused this.

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Why the surprise?

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=71003

Lets face it, Americans are nuts
Oh wait .... this was not the Americans? I must be an idiot, crazy people only kill people in America because they sell guns and have churches there. Al Gore and Michael Moore have said so in movies.....

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About "those crazy religious germans and their reprehensible love of guns that is the root of all of this".

Because after all it is their lack of enlightenment by not having strict gun control laws and going to church that obviously caused this.



Oh wait .... this was not the Americans? I must be an idiot, crazy people only kill people in America because they sell guns and have churches there.
How about showing some respect and finding a different place to grind this particular ideological axe?

People have been killed--the appropriate response is sadness, not a weak attempt to stir the political pot.
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How about showing some respect and finding a different place to grind this particular ideological axe?

People have been killed--the appropriate response is sadness, not a weak attempt to stir the political pot.
But it was fine in the other thread? This event will provoke an ideological response, regardless of the appropriate emotional response. If you noticed, the Germans passed even more draconian gun laws following this tragedy.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:28 AM   #7
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Wow, sad sad story indeed.
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But it was fine in the other thread? This event will provoke an ideological response, regardless of the appropriate emotional response. If you noticed, the Germans passed even more draconian gun laws following this tragedy.

Who said it was fine in the other thread? What is this, "false dilemma" day?
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Who said it was fine in the other thread? What is this, "false dilemma" day?
Why yes... yesssss. I believe it is.

Seriously, this story is terrifyingly sad. I just was agreeing with the other poster that people selectively exploit mass shootings when it promotes an anti-American bias.
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Why yes... yesssss. I believe it is.

Seriously, this story is terrifyingly sad. I just was agreeing with the other poster that people selectively exploit mass shootings when it promotes an anti-American bias.
Fair enough!

In any case, let's bury the hatchet on this one. As you say, it's sad--and not a time for politics either way.
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Seriously, this story is terrifyingly sad. I just was agreeing with the other poster that people selectively exploit mass shootings when it promotes an anti-American bias.
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What he said.

It is sad, it shouldn't happen to anyone.

My problem is when this happens in the US everyone gets up on their pulpit and says "well they are religious and have guns what do you expect" like they almost deserve it. Oh your dog died .... yea well you own a gun and a bible...so there you go. As if to say in our superior society where we ban guns and worship logic and science this could never happen.

News flash - there are crazy people everywhere that are out to hurt innocents.

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Old 03-11-2009, 01:23 PM   #12
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The guys parents had tons of firearms at home, so if you want to start a political discussion, the example seems to state that "Germany should have tougher laws" and "growing up around guns breeds killers"... So I wouldn't go there as a pro-gun advocate.

(Not that I agree with the line of thinking above, I just wanted to point out how this doesn't exactly make a great pro-gun case from which ever way you twist it.)

BTW, I don't recall a lot of people connecting religiousness with being gun-crazy.

Your rant is against a straw man, I don't think it's based on reality.
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