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Old 03-10-2009, 06:58 PM   #21
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So a Ninja would have to cheat to win....
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Old 03-10-2009, 08:02 PM   #22
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So a Ninja would have to cheat to win....
Well, technically, the Ninja would win before the opponent knew there was a match
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Old 03-10-2009, 08:36 PM   #23
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Yeah I think asking the question about ninjas is missing the point. It's like comparing oranges to a tennis ball. Completely different, for all the reasons that have been mentioned already. But basically ninjas are assassins and even though they have great fighting skills, they aren't fighters per se.

But I do wonder why you don't see a more eastern slanted martial arts fighter, a Jet Li type, in there kicking ass sometimes. I'm sure it's just the fighting style, and it doesn't translate well in the octagon. Especially with all the rules they have now.

I'm sure a Shaolin monk could win in there, but that of course would be completely against their training/philosophy to even enter an event like that.
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Old 03-10-2009, 08:42 PM   #24
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Muay Thai and Kickboxing are some of the common forms used in MMA, I believe. Mostly due to the close-proximity strikes and general facebreakery.

Karate and Kung Fu are fun to watch all that of that, but in terms of actually knocking out/submitting someone in an ring with them, (unless they too are fighting against you using Karate or Kung Fu, or whatever) it's not as likely as you'd think, mostly because they are more about the art than the fighting.

At least that's what some guy who claimed to be an ex-MMA fighter told me.
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Old 03-10-2009, 08:48 PM   #25
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The best fighters diversify, as no one art is perfect

Muay Thai and kickboxing (Tae wan do too maybe) are great for the striking art
Up close, jiu jitsu and wrestling for grappling
The karates and kun fu types great for moment and foot control

Most fights however will eventually lead to the ground, which is so many fighters learn jiu jitsu, especially the Brazillian (Gracie) style

Too bad though, since I would totally like to see a real life Kumite (Blood sport) event featuring different martial arts from around the world
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Old 03-10-2009, 08:53 PM   #26
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IIRC the first UFC stuff wasn't all MMA like now. It was basically what most are talking about, kung fu guy vs wrestler, Kickboxing vs Hapkido. I think the guys with good ground game and decent striking still won.

But ninjas would be sweet.
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Too bad though, since I would totally like to see a real life Kumite (Blood sport) event featuring different martial arts from around the world
Wait, you mean to tell me that Blood Sport is not based on fact?!?! You just turned my world upside down.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:05 PM   #28
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Back to Ninja's being obsolete. When you can reach out and touch someone from a 1000 yards away. then there's no need to sneek up on someone and put yourself in danger. With modern technology if you can see it, you can probably kill it.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:13 PM   #29
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IIRC the first UFC stuff wasn't all MMA like now. It was basically what most are talking about, kung fu guy vs wrestler, Kickboxing vs Hapkido. I think the guys with good ground game and decent striking still won.

But ninjas would be sweet.
Yeah, I remember renting a few of the first UFC's from the video store.

There'd be some guy wearing a kung-fu get up fighting a great big fat guy.

Tank Abbot would be in The Octagon in cut-off sweats and hi-tops throwing haymakers until he couldn't breath (usually 15-20 seconds).

The guys with "good ground game and decent striking" did win all the time. And that little Gracie guy, he won too. The brawlers and Masters of Chop-Socky didn't last.
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Also, isn't it against some kind of ninja code to fight for money or profit? Or is that jedi? Either way, something about morals or ethics.
This thread should have been about Jedi!
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:27 PM   #31
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ok folks, so I have taken a bit of a hitatus, but I do attend Ninjitsu classes here in Edmonton


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Are pressure points legal in the MMA?
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:47 PM   #33
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Judging by the turnout at the annual parade, I'd say ninjas are as relevant as ever.

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LOL, damn you Mike F. I was just trying to figure out how to embed that video
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I hope not, after all those Pirates retired the Ninjas are all we have left to defend us against the Aliens.

If the Ninjas disappear too we're totally screwed.
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I hope not, after all those Pirates retired the Ninjas are all we have left to defend us against the Aliens.

If the Ninjas disappear too we're totally screwed.
What about Chuck Norris?
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What about Chuck Norris?
Hes only a couple years away from a pension...you have to amortize his fighting effectiveness accordingly from his prime to where he is right now.

At the moment, Chuck Norris is about 50/50 in a fight with a toaster. 40/60 if its got a bagel setting.
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Yes and no. No more groin strikes, eye gouging or fish hooks. Other than that, yeah, if you can manage to get a pressure point locked in go to town. I guess what it boils down to is that a great ground game owns everything else in close quarters sanctioned combat.
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Algorithm March! Now with more ninjas!
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Because ninjas are all about darkness and secrecy. A ninja loses a substantial amount of his power when there is a crowd of people watching.
Also because the metaphysical nature of ninja powers requires a high level of concentration to achieve mastery. A hollering audience dissipates your chi. And because, as already observed, it is hard to sneak up in an octagon.

Just like how a pirate is more powerful than a ninja if they are fighting at sea because the ninja is sober and disoriented from the motion, but a ninja is more powerful than a pirate on land because the pirate is drunk and disoriented from all the levelness. Unless the pirate is also a vampire. Vampirates can kick anybody's ass. And they have superpowers.
What are we talking about again?
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