Man stabbed, then decapitated on grey hound bus

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

1) If he did stand trial and went to jail, there is always the chance that he could get out one day. Believe it or not, psychiatric hospitals can be more indefinite than prison.

Exactly why I agree with it.

Public is better protected by this decision.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by fotze

This is one case where death penalty may be appropriate (I m anti-death penalty). Pretty sure this guy wants to die, should we be preventing it? Shouldn't dieing be a right, is there any chance for rehab, would anyone want to be next to the guy, ever? Give him some rope and a chair and a bar above and look the other way for an hour.

Well if you do it for this guy you open up the whole euthenasia debate. Not that I'm against that either, but can't really just make exceptions.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Sadly I almost agree with this. Sending this guy to prison wouldn't help him at all as prisons are notorious for not exactly ensuring treatment, and other hardened criminals aren't exactly sensitive to dealing with the truly mentally f%%ked.

A prison term might serve the family of the victim who are undoubtedly in pain.

But there's no rehabilitation chances in a prison sentence for this character who is severely mentally ill.

At least in a mental hospital, he'll get treated, he won't be dealing with the worst of the worst, and he probably won't get out.

Totally agree.

In my mind, prison is about punishment and rehabilitation. It's pretty clear to me that this guy is completely coo-koo. Prison wont change that. Now, if the guy did this because the other guy stole his wallet, prison might be the place for him. But an unprovoked act like this is the kind of thing that sends you to the psych ward for life.

[Flames_Gimp]

take him outside and shoot him. Screw the hospital idea..what a huge waste of money, a single bullet doesn't cost much.

[tkflames]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

take him outside and shoot him. Screw the hospital idea..what a huge waste of money, a single bullet doesn't cost much.

That might be what happens anyways if he ever gets out...It's friendly Manitoba no more...rather spirited energy...

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

So. Since you two condemn the Canadian justice system for this, which country do you think we should emulate? This guy would have been given the same assessment in the United States, so that's out. Maybe you guys prefer China's justice system?

What he said:

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

take him outside and shoot him. Screw the hospital idea..what a huge waste of money, a single bullet doesn't cost much.

Why waste 100's of thousands of dollars on someone who is never going to get better?

[Devils'Advocate]

I was hoping that Gimp just forgot the green font and was giving him the benefit of the doubt.

I find a sane person wanting to kill the insane far, far more depressing than the reverse.

[pepper24]

To tradegy of this all is that the suspect didn't do the honorable thing and kill himself after the incident.

[shermanator]

UPDATE: Accused found not guilty.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/found+g...809/story.html

[ok, ok,....I get it]

The judge, defence and crown need to change their diet

[troutman]

Originally Posted by ok, ok,....I get it

The judge needs to change his diet

Both the Crown and defence argued in favour of finding Li not criminally responsible

[Blaster86]

If the guy is mentally unfit they CANNOT send him to jail. The judge may want too. He may really really want to see him rot in prison but he can't. Even if he sentenced him to life in prison it would get overturned SO FAST we'd get burns from it blowing by.

Edit- And what Troutman said.

[ok, ok,....I get it]

Originally Posted by troutman

Both the Crown and defence argued in favour of finding Li not criminally responsible

thanks I changed it

[troutman]

Originally Posted by ok, ok,....I get it

The judge, defence and crown need to change their diet

You must enjoy the balanced programs on QR 77.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by troutman

You must enjoy the balanced programs on QR 77.

Hey! I enjoy the UNbalanced programs on QR. Well, Rutherford.

[FLAMESRULE]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

If the guy is mentally unfit they CANNOT send him to jail. The judge may want too. He may really really want to see him rot in prison but he can't. Even if he sentenced him to life in prison it would get overturned SO FAST we'd get burns from it blowing by.

And thats why I have little faith in the justice system. Somehow this guy was allowed to roam around freely as he chooses prior to the murder.

If he cant be found mentally fit to go to jail then how is allowed free access to society?? Do we need to have a mental competency/fitness test for anyone over 18 to be in a "free" society??

He is absolutely criminally responsible and needs to pay for the crime. I have a very tough time believing any amount of rehab/treatment is going to help this guy.

[ok, ok,....I get it]

Originally Posted by troutman

You must enjoy the balanced programs on QR 77.

lol.....actually, I bounce back and forth between QR 77 and the CBC....I figure it keeps me balanced.

There is no mention of the defedant's history in the article, does he have a hx of mental disorder?

[Azure]

He is going to be in a mental hospital for a long time, right?

[burn_this_city]

I hope he's institutionalized indefinitely.

[ok, ok,....I get it]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

I hope he's institutionalized indefinitely.

very few are institutionalized indefenitely in canada....Olson, Bernardo, etc