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FCAV · 02-28-2009, 01:56 PM

For those that like or tolerate what Hockey's Future offers, they've released a new top-20 prospects rankings for the Flames this morning. No surprises on the top two.

Link is here: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article...ts_spring2009/

Short of it is:

1. Mikael Backlund, C
2. Greg Nemisz, RW
3. Keith Aulie, D
4. Mitch Wahl, C
5. Leland Irving, G
6. John Negrin, D
7. Matt Keetley, G
8. Juuso Puustinen, RW
9. T.J. Brodie, D
10. Aaron Marvin, C
11. John Armstrong, C
12. Daniel Ryder, C
13. Kris Chucko, LW
14. Kevin Lalande, G
15. Kyle Greentree, LW
16. Matt Pelech, D
17. Jordan Fulton, LW
18. Nick Larson, LW
19. David Van der Gulik, RW
20. Brett Sutter, C

If this needs to be moved to the other board, fire away.

jeremywilhelm · 02-28-2009, 02:00 PM

How can Ryder still be on that list?!

killer_carlson · 02-28-2009, 02:01 PM

sutter that low? Wow. As Bingo says, the guy will be an NHLer, not a star necessarily, but will be an NHLer some day.

This list isn't that impressive to be honest. Not a lot of thought went into it.

FCAV · 02-28-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jeremywilhelm

How can Ryder still be on that list?!

And he's still ahead of Chucko!

Reggie Dunlop · 02-28-2009, 02:03 PM

Frankly, this is nothing more than spam.

How long would a link to a D'Arcy McGrath blog entry last on the other forum?

JiriHrdina · 02-28-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Frankly, this is nothing more than spam.

How long would a link to a D'Arcy McGrath blog entry last on the other forum?

Not sure but its of interest to our users and as such fair game to be posted here.

FCAV · 02-28-2009, 02:07 PM

I wouldn't consider it spam either. I am absolutely no way affiliated with HF and haven't been for over three years.

Reggie Dunlop · 02-28-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Not sure but its of interest to our users and as such fair game to be posted here.

Actually, it's somebody named Brad Gardner's opinion. As long as folks are clear on that.

Save Us Sutter · 02-28-2009, 02:11 PM

I like that three of our BOTTOM 6 have played in the NHL this year and another one (Pelech) almost made the team out of camp.

Meanwhile a guy who will probably never play pro hockey again is #12.

It's almost as if this came from a site where teenage fanclubs rule and accurate, objective hockey discussion falls by the wayside.... The only time I've ever gone to that site for anything, was when I was trying to find juicy rumors about Carey Price's extracurricular activities in order to scare this habs fan I know.

simonsays · 02-28-2009, 02:14 PM

Looking at their list doesn't seem to bother me the way it does some of you. The number grade is how they view talent, it's the letter grade that matters in most of these cases. In Sutters case the 5.5 means that he's a 3rd/4th line grinder, but his B means that he's on the right track. In Ryders case the 7 suggests he could be a second liner, his F suggests that he won't be.

It's not necessarily how I'd rank prospects, but it's hardly worth getting up in arms about it.

Reggie Dunlop · 02-28-2009, 02:19 PM

One can only surmise that these biannual lists are randomly cobbled together by the utterly clueless, or purposely so in order to generate outrage.

Nonetheless, these "Top 20" (or even Top 10) lists are rather silly. One, maybe three concensus guys at the top and the rest wild stabs.

Darryl Sutter was on the radio last night expressing contentment with his overall organizational depth. I'm pretty sure he doesn't read the Hockey News, or even know what the hell "hockeysfuture" is.

Weiser Wonder · 02-28-2009, 02:21 PM

The fact is Brad Gardner probably hasn't seen most of the Flames prospects. No mention of specifics and he doesn't seem to know who Ryan Wilson is.

Reggie Dunlop · 02-28-2009, 03:32 PM

Despite the constant rotation of authors, these Flames lists are always a dog's breakfast. Might as well hand the reigns over to that "Dallas Flames Fan" feller

Hockey's Future is the last place to look for discussion of Flames prospects (which is actually hilarious given that's their supposed raison d'etre).

koop · 02-28-2009, 03:32 PM

Aulie at 3 and Pelech at 16? Aulie is looking like a good prospect, but seriously? The thing that bothers me about these lists is that no research is done, if Aulie wasn't at the world juniors, and had been having an even better season than he's having (I know a stupid hypothetical situation) he probably would be lucky to make this top 20.

I'm also curious how long it will take for Puustinen to be removed from that list, every time these lists get put out someone comments on HF that he isn't under contract, but apparently the people who write these don't even take the time to see what is said about their lists. If he isn't good enough to earn a contract chances are he isn't our 8th best prospect.

Drunk Skunk · 02-28-2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Save Us Sutter

I like that three of our BOTTOM 6 have played in the NHL this year and another one (Pelech) almost made the team out of camp.

Meanwhile a guy who will probably never play pro hockey again is #12.

It's almost as if this came from a site where teenage fanclubs rule and accurate, objective hockey discussion falls by the wayside.... The only time I've ever gone to that site for anything, was when I was trying to find juicy rumors about Carey Price's extracurricular activities in order to scare this habs fan I know.

02/27/2009 Dan Ryder (C) Providence ADD Signed to PTOBy the Providence Bruins of the AHL.

Oops.

Save Us Sutter · 02-28-2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Drunk Skunk

02/27/2009 Dan Ryder (C) Providence ADD Signed to PTOBy the Providence Bruins of the AHL.

Oops.

Yeah... I know... read that about 2 minutes after. That's what I get for making such an absolute statement. I hadn't heard a whisper about him since he was suspended from the team and assumed he had gone back to Nfld again.

Reggie Dunlop · 02-28-2009, 03:55 PM

If Dan Ryder is signing a tryout contract with the Providence Bruins, either the Flames have released him from his existing contract or it's a precursory "loan" to the parent Boston Bruins pending a formal transaction. In either scenario, he's done as a Flame.

killer_carlson · 02-28-2009, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

One can only surmise that these biannual lists are randomly cobbled together by the utterly clueless, or purposely so in order to generate outrage.

.

agreed

sevenarms · 02-28-2009, 05:05 PM

On Irving: "His lead on the other Flames prospects in net is dwindling."

Really? Come on guy. Irving is really coming into his own at QC and is easily the Flames top goalie prospect. Since the start of the year Keetley has lost his game while Irving has been steadily improving. Stating that his lead is dwindling is utterly ridiculous.

Torture · 02-28-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sevenarms

On Irving: "His lead on the other Flames prospects in net is dwindling."

Really? Come on guy. Irving is really coming into his own at QC and is easily the Flames top goalie prospect. Since the start of the year Keetley has lost his game while Irving has been steadily improving. Stating that his lead is dwindling is utterly ridiculous.

Yeah, I like how it said he was losing his job. Wasn't he stealing starts from Keetley before he got sent down?