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Old 02-26-2009, 04:18 PM   #141
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Thrifty cooks have been finding creative ways for using up stale bread since the beginning of time. The connection between stale bread and soup dates to the Medieval times, when soup was served in sops (pieces of stale bread). French onion soup is classically topped with a <A href="http://www.foodtimeline.org/foodsoups.html#frenchonionsoup">crust of stale bread
Croutons, purposely spiced and gently toasted, are more refined twist on this culinary theme. One might reasonably argue croutons were inspired by biscotti and other ancient twice baked goods.
"Crouton. Derived from the French crouton, has been an English word since early in the 19th century, whereas two other connected French culinary terms, croute and croustade, have remained French...All these terms derive from the Latin word crusta, meaning 'shell'. Thus the outside of a loaf of bread is the crust or croute. Crouton, the diminutive form, usually refers to the familiar little cubes of toasted or fried bread which might originally have been cut from a crust...It first appears in French in the 17th century when it is described as 'a little piece of bread crust served with drinks'. In recent times, croutons are often added to fish soups, and occasionally to certain salads."
---Oxford Companion to Food, Alan Davidson [Oxford University Press:Oxford] 1999 (p. 229)
"Croutes for soup. Thick slices of French bread (flute) which have been partly hollowed out or cut in two lengthways and dried in the oven. Croutes are served with all kinds of soups, usually separately, either plain, garnished or filled...In the Middle Ages, the thin slices of bread soaked in stock, wine or milk, which were served with gruels or liquid stews, were called soupes. Later the name croute was given to lightly browned slices of bread served after the soup: these were coated with puree, garnished with crayfish or asparagus tips, and moistened with partridge gravy or cooked au gratin using Parmesan cheese."
---Larousse Gastronomique, Completely Revised and Updated edition [Clarkson Potter:New York] 2001 (p. 380)
The Larousse de la Langue Francaise [Librarie Larousse:Paris, 1969 ] traces the word crouton in French print to 1596. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the oldest instance of the word crouton in [English] is 1806. You can view several 19th century crouton recipes published in American cookbooks courtesy of Michigan State University's digital cookbook collection (recipe search: crouton).
So what does that have to do with Calgary? Or is 4x4 posting random stuff like genitalia sticking out of pants again?
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Old 02-26-2009, 04:18 PM   #142
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"Western" culture is fascinating to some people...The big sky and open spaces and the majestic rocky mountains is fascinating...just like you are I visiting France or Italy etc...It is different people will come. We are very humble in Calgary and in Canada for that matter...people do like coming here..the numbers speak for themselves...I spent my fair share of years working in the service industry in university...met alot of people from all over (especially during World Police and Fire Games in '97)..people love it here...
I love big sky country, ranches, horses, wide open fields, the prairies, etc. I just don't see any of it at that stupid 1960s concrete jungle they call Stampede Park! The sky is obscured by the smoke from dozens of overpriced corn dog carts and outdated plastic seat gondolas that are way past their age. The mountains are obscured by the concrete brutalism that is the Rodeo grandstands and the horrific Casino. It's mostly that park I hate. I think it has no aesthetic value and is just ugly.

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So what does that have to do with Calgary? Or is 4x4 posting random stuff like genitalia sticking out of pants again?
there was a random derailmant, about things calgary invented......someone said croutons (actually it was crotons).....
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there was a random derailmant, about things calgary invented......someone said croutons (actually it was crotons).....
Yes, that's what I meant. 4x4, why do you think Croutons were invented in Calgary or have anything to do with Calgary?
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We should start a list of things that Calgary should be famous for so we can be dorks and tell people on travels.

Like how we are the birthplace of the Bloody Ceaser and Ginger Beef. When in Germany, the only thing I could think of that a German could relate to was telling somebody Owen Hargreaves was from Calgary. Also the guy who invented JAVA was from Calgary. And Tommy Chong of Cheech and Chong is from here.
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I love big sky country, ranches, horses, wide open fields, the prairies, etc. I just don't see any of it at that stupid 1960s concrete jungle they call Stampede Park! It's mostly that park I hate. I think it has no aesthetic value and is just ugly.
big freaking deal...although they are slowly and surely turning that area around..

Edit: Not that I don't agree with you about the aesthetic value..but one must wonder if that was the same attitude Calgarians took when they kept tearing down anything built before 1930 in this town...that if were still around would give this city even more appeal..

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there was a random derailmant, about things calgary invented......someone said croutons (actually it was crotons).....
That should be the title of this thread.
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We have Stampede Wrestling but I'm pretty sure that is definetely not where professional wrestling began or even a milestone in it's history aside from one family
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Old 02-26-2009, 04:25 PM   #149
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Uh, that is kind of surprising, but I wasn't really talking about people from western Canada.

The Stampede trumps it up as this big family affair with tourists from all over the world. If that is true, well, I just know some of them are just a little disappointed. If Otto from Hamburg bundles up his wife and kids and comes all the way here for the Stampede, I gotta think he looks around at the Stampede grounds and says "vee picked dis over Dissneyland"?

Maybe I'm wrong. Or maybe because since I've seen it all my life, I don't understand why anyone would choose a "Stampede Vacation" when there are so many other things to do in the world.

Could be that I'm just like the kid with the swimming pool. I've gone swimming a million times, I'm sick of swimming.
I agree with you on this. The actual fair and rides part of stampede actually goes all over the place doesn't it? Doesnt the same crew end up at klondike days in Edmonton and PNE in Vancouver? And the stuff in the roundup centre is basically late night infomercials in person.

The only thing that can be considered distinct is the rodeo and western themed stuff. But then again you can go to Nashville any time if you're a country music fan. And i'm sure there's rodeo in numerous other North American cities, probably more frequent than in Calgary.

As far as Calgary's history and culture goes, doesn anyone go to stampede and really think about Calgary's heritage? Its a big commercial fair with really generic western themes. There doesn't seem to be any genuine culture or history involved in the Stampede anyways.
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Yes, that's what I meant. 4x4, why do you think Croutons were invented in Calgary or have anything to do with Calgary?
Maybe it was caeser salad?
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Whoa? Tommy Chong is from here?
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sorry that appears to be mexican....
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Jiri invented Caeaser Salad?
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Caeser Salad was invened in Tijuana in the 1920s. A hotel barman invented the Tomato Clam Caeser for a competition here though.
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Kinda here and Edmonton. Born in stinktown, then his family moved here when he was young. He eventually moved back up there(he went to Victoria Composite HS in Edmonton), and then later onto Vancouver.
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Kinda here and Edmonton. Born in stinktown, then his family moved here when he was young. He eventually moved back up there, and then later onto Vancouver.
Crazy, I never knew that.
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Caeser Salad was invened in Tijuana in the 1920s. A hotel barman invented the Tomato Clam Caeser for a competition here though.
Ah. That's why I've got that idea in my head.
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Kinda here and Edmonton. Born in stinktown, then his family moved here when he was young. He eventually moved back up there(he went to Victoria Composite HS in Edmonton), and then later onto Vancouver.
i also thought he did time at Western Canada on 17th Ave?
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