Nv4_disp infinite loop(Nvidia) - Page 2 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

JohnnyFlame · 02-20-2009, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raekwon

I'm telling you I spent countless hours on this until I found that fix. hope it works.

Well I guess it isn't a AGP card as I could not find that controller. Plus my spare video card which is an ATI 9600 won't fit in the video card slot so I could not try that either. Another wasted evening working on this thing--
Sheesh!!!!!!

Rathji · 02-20-2009, 09:36 PM

Does the MB have onboard video? Is there a monitor connection other than on your video card?

JohnnyFlame · 02-21-2009, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rathji

Does the MB have onboard video? Is there a monitor connection other than on your video card?

The only other way I can see to hook it up is with the DVI cable. Would that make a difference?

Rathji · 02-21-2009, 05:55 PM

If your motherboard has onboard video, then it would have been disabled in BIOS when your new card was put in, but the connector would still be there on the back of your computer, but coming out of the motherboard and not from a card slot.

If this was the case, you could re-enable the onboard video through the BIOS and just remove your buggered video card until you got the fix working.

JohnnyFlame · 02-21-2009, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rathji

If your motherboard has onboard video, then it would have been disabled in BIOS when your new card was put in, but the connector would still be there on the back of your computer, but coming out of the motherboard and not from a card slot.

If this was the case, you could re-enable the onboard video through the BIOS and just remove your buggered video card until you got the fix working.

Ok I got back online with a HP tech and he said that the computer does indeed have onboard video. He had me look for a VGA port on the back of the tower. The only VGA port is an output which looks like as setup for a dvd player as in one yellow, red and white av cord holes. He had me looking for a female port but could not see it.

So if I can reenable the onboard video how do I connect that to the monitor?

Rathji · 02-21-2009, 08:39 PM

Find the VGA port that is not coming out of the card bays. It will be coming out of another part of your computer.

If you can't find it, post a picture of the back of your computer and I am sure someone can point it out.

onetwo_threefour · 02-21-2009, 10:26 PM

I'm not here to help, just wish you luck...

I flashe my BIOS with the wrong update a couple of years ago and although I'm lucky I din't brick my whiole computer, when I tried to use the recovery partition on my hard drive, the proprietary software wouln't let me because it thinks it's a different kind of computer now... I know the kind of grief you're suffering.

ricosuave · 02-21-2009, 11:05 PM

How about trying the nvidia uninstaller
http://www.processlist.com/info/nvuenet.html

Then the omega drivers?
http://www.omegadrivers.net

Hack&Lube · 02-22-2009, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame

Ok I got back online with a HP tech and he said that the computer does indeed have onboard video. He had me look for a VGA port on the back of the tower. The only VGA port is an output which looks like as setup for a dvd player as in one yellow, red and white av cord holes. He had me looking for a female port but could not see it.

So if I can reenable the onboard video how do I connect that to the monitor?

VGA looks like this

It's a blue connector.

You will have to goto the bios and reenable it if it has been turned off but if you never touch your bios, it could possibly still be on and just not used since you dropped in a regular videocard.

As for your videocard, make sure you run Driver Sweeper (Driver Cleaner stopped being freeware) and clean out any Nvidia software.

1. Download the latest Nvidia drivers for your videocard.
2. Download the latest Nforce drivers for your motherboard/chipset.
3. Run Driver Sweeper
http://downloads.guru3d.com/Guru3D--...up)_d1655.html
4. Reinstall Nvidia drivers for videocard and see if that fixes the problem
5. If not, then re-run the installation for your Nforce drivers
6. If that fails, then try the onboard video and swap the card entirely.

JohnnyFlame · 02-22-2009, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

VGA looks like this

It's a blue connector.

You will have to goto the bios and reenable it if it has been turned off but if you never touch your bios, it could possibly still be on and just not used since you dropped in a regular videocard.

Yeah the only connector I have like that is when the video card is plugged in. There isn't one on the tower which makes me wonder if the HP tech even knows what he is talking about. How can it have onboard video without a way to connect it to the monitor?

Hack&Lube · 02-22-2009, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame

Yeah the only connector I have like that is when the video card is plugged in. There isn't one on the tower which makes me wonder if the HP tech even knows what he is talking about. How can it have onboard video without a way to connect it to the monitor?

Tell us what model of HP you have

JohnnyFlame · 02-23-2009, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Tell us what model of HP you have

It's an HP Media Center m7680n --- http://www.amazon.com/Pavilion-Deskt.../dp/B000IMYJJI

I've run into a new problem now. I tried another video card that I borrowed and it didn't fit. When I put the original back in all I get are O with a dot in the middle. This is after the first HP screen where you can choose to go into the boot menu etc.

I assume I haven't got it reseated properly or maybe it has just given up the ghost.

I've read that two of the weaker points of this model are the graphics card and the power supply. Those are two out of the many reasons for the infinite loop error. The first time I turned it on after removing the card and putting it back it worked and I had removed the nvidia drivers and was preparing to install the omega drivers. There was a restart required and since then I can't get it to boot pass the original screen.

I'm about out of options for borrowing a card as I can't anyone who has the right one. I tried doing the recovery disks again and it didn't work so I'm stuck yet again. Be going at it again tonight. I'm thinking I will reseat the card and then run the recovery disks again. Then if it works go back to the remove drivers, install card and chipset drivers and see if that works. Along with trying to find a video card I can borrow to see if I can isolate it down to just upgrading my card.

It's sure an ongoing saga and I sure see why people get so frustrated with this problem!!!!!!!!!

Bobblehead · 02-23-2009, 09:30 AM

Doesn't look like you have onboard video.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...roduct=3230688

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...name=c00748726

And it looks like the video card is a PCIe, which is a newer type of card. AGP won't work in that system, although if you go very old you may be able to find a PCI video card that would work but you won't be able to play any games(at least none from the last 6 or 7 years) on it.

JohnnyFlame · 02-23-2009, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Doesn't look like you have onboard video.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...roduct=3230688

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...name=c00748726

And it looks like the video card is a PCIe, which is a newer type of card. AGP won't work in that system, although if you go very old you may be able to find a PCI video card that would work but you won't be able to play any games(at least none from the last 6 or 7 years) on it.

Yeah I must admit that I find it EXTREMELY annoying that tech types in support roles are often clueless. Must be an easy job to land without qualifications. Like a good mechanic finding a tech guy who actually knows what he is doing is like finding a chunk of gold on the street. I'm getting to the point where I either going to have to take it in or look for someone who does computer house calls. Hopefully I can find someone who actually knows their stuff.

So I need to find a newer PCI card to borrow?

Bobblehead · 02-23-2009, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame

Yeah I must admit that I find it EXTREMELY annoying that tech types in support roles are often clueless. Must be an easy job to land without qualifications. Like a good mechanic finding a tech guy who actually knows what he is doing is like finding a chunk of gold on the street. I'm getting to the point where I either going to have to take it in or look for someone who does computer house calls. Hopefully I can find someone who actually knows their stuff.

So I need to find a newer PCI card to borrow?

Not PCI; PCIe (PCI Express).

Have you tried any sort of a live-CD?
A "live-CD" is a linux operating system that loads up from the CD and doesn't need you hard drive at all. It is a way to try out linux without needing to install linux. It is handy in these situation because if a Live-CD works fine but booting off of the hard drive doesn't then you know the issue is hard drive or windows install related, as opposed to any of the core hardware.

JohnnyFlame · 02-23-2009, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Not PCI; PCIe (PCI Express).

Have you tried any sort of a live-CD?
A "live-CD" is a linux operating system that loads up from the CD and doesn't need you hard drive at all. It is a way to try out linux without needing to install linux. It is handy in these situation because if a Live-CD works fine but booting off of the hard drive doesn't then you know the issue is hard drive or windows install related, as opposed to any of the core hardware.

Is this something I can just download off the net? I have a small computer with Linux on it as well. Can I create a CD off of that?

Bobblehead · 02-23-2009, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame

Is this something I can just download off the net? I have a small computer with Linux on it as well. Can I create a CD off of that?

You can't use one that you have already installed, but most distros have live CD now days. Just download, burn to a CD and go.

Here is a quick list I found (I'm not sure how up to date it is)...

http://www.livecdlist.com/

JohnnyFlame · 02-23-2009, 12:39 PM

Well if nothing else it's a real learning experience. Tonight I will learn about live CD's as I have the Linux one ready to go now. I remember somebody asking about what software to create--I'm thinking the all encompassing diagnostic disk that at the end just says "Replace this and you are ready to roll". Now there is software I would instantly scoop off the shelves!!!!!!!!

Bobblehead · 02-23-2009, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame

Well if nothing else it's a real learning experience. Tonight I will learn about live CD's as I have the Linux one ready to go now. I remember somebody asking about what software to create--I'm thinking the all encompassing diagnostic disk that at the end just says "Replace this and you are ready to roll". Now there is software I would instantly scoop off the shelves!!!!!!!!

True, but the computer hardware changes so fast that it would be out of date every few months.

The debugging skills you are learning will be applicable on systems for years.

Raekwon · 02-23-2009, 03:41 PM

that sucks that nothing has worked, I have always heard that the infinite loop was limited to AGP cards. learn something new everyday