02-19-2009, 11:21 AM
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A lot of people don't realize how wide trains can be, or how the ground shaking can cause them to lose their balance. I have also heard that you can be sucked in and pulled towards the train.
Some people walk or stand by tracks thinking they have enough space, but they don't.
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02-19-2009, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
I have also heard that you can be sucked in and pulled towards the train.
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I think they did that on Mythbusters once.
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02-19-2009, 11:49 AM
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natural selection
as far as I am concerned people who walk in front of big white trains with flashing lights don't deserve to breathe the same air I breathe.
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02-19-2009, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ken0042
I think they did that on Mythbusters once.
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How did it turn out?
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02-19-2009, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
A lot of people don't realize how wide trains can be, or how the ground shaking can cause them to lose their balance. I have also heard that you can be sucked in and pulled towards the train.
Some people walk or stand by tracks thinking they have enough space, but they don't.
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The motion of trains can be quite disorienting too, if you are, for example, between two of them in a rail yard. It can be hard sometimes to determine which of two trains is actually moving, and can also cause people to get dizzy because their frame of reference is all screwed up.
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02-19-2009, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Lchoy
Sad story this morning
As sad as it was, I was more annoyed by the first 2 comments that were blaming the driver or the c-train. While it's nicer to have an underground c-train all the way, it would also take 10X the cost and time to do that. Some times, people have to take responsibility for their own actions, including looking both ways when crossing the street
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The CBC site is worse for assinine comments in general from bleeding hearts or ignorant people.
Complete idoicy to talk about underground stations being to blame. At Marlborough and 36 St no less, if there was an underground station, it would be closed a couple times a week as investiagtors have to detail an assult or robbery or something else more serious. And chances are in the past 10 years there would be more loss of life at that undergound station then city wide C-train pedestrain deaths.
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02-19-2009, 12:18 PM
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What a lot of people do is hold the little gate open while the train is leaving the station and hustle across the tracks seconds after the train is out of the way.
You get another train coming in the station and you'll walk right into it's path, I've seen a close call like that. Sometimes the train operator leaving the station will hold up for a second to block the path or not leave the station at all until that person closes the gate and stands back.
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02-19-2009, 12:19 PM
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Wait
what was the 'male companion' doing? Was he drunk or stoned? He should have heard/seen the train or signals and been able to stop her or warn her.
Could that not be 'criminal negligence' or that thingie where you have to act to protect someone's safety when there is no hindrance or risk to do so?
I'm no lawyer
thank God
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02-19-2009, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Kryzsky
What a lot of people do is hold the little gate open while the train is leaving the station and hustle across the tracks seconds after the train is out of the way.
You get another train coming in the station and you'll walk right into it's path, I've seen a close call like that. Sometimes the train operator leaving the station will hold up for a second to block the path or not leave the station at all until that person closes the gate and stands back.
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I appreciate drivers that do that. Looking out for the safety of the passengers regardless of the level of their stupidity.
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02-19-2009, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Kryzsky
What a lot of people do is hold the little gate open while the train is leaving the station and hustle across the tracks seconds after the train is out of the way.
You get another train coming in the station and you'll walk right into it's path, I've seen a close call like that. Sometimes the train operator leaving the station will hold up for a second to block the path or not leave the station at all until that person closes the gate and stands back.
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This wouldn't have been someone who just got off the train. The Marlborough stop you go into the station, up the escalator/stairs and figure out which side of 36th you want to go to.
This happened on the intersection of 8th & 36th (on the corner with Eastside Dodge), so the person would have been crossing 36th as well. That is what makes this one hard to picture. On top of their being the lights, bells and barriers, when the train is coming the lights for vehicles driving along 36th goes green. And, at each intersection only one side has a crossing of 36th (and I think it is the north side - the side of the Canadian Tire/Pacific Place over to the Humpty's strip mall), but sometimes people don't bother crossing 8th to get to the actual pedestrian crossing. So I'm wondering if maybe she was j-walking and watching traffic as opposed to the train.
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02-19-2009, 12:42 PM
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02-19-2009, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by browna
The CBC site is worse for assinine comments in general from bleeding hearts or ignorant people.
Complete idoicy to talk about underground stations being to blame. At Marlborough and 36 St no less, if there was an underground station, it would be closed a couple times a week as investiagtors have to detail an assult or robbery or something else more serious. And chances are in the past 10 years there would be more loss of life at that undergound station then city wide C-train pedestrain deaths.
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Are you ignorantly proclaiming that the Marlborough station to be more violent then others?
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02-19-2009, 01:12 PM
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I realize the Darwin thing is mentioned in jest, but I am sure most of us - if not all, can think back to times in our past when we did something risky or acted in an oblivious or ignorant manner. I know I've done things in the past that gives me the shivers. Two times for me come to mind. Once was when I fell though the ice on a frozen lake. Another was when I dove into shallow water and hit my head.
Almost everyone does something stupid at some point, it's just most of us don't die from it and hopefully learn from it.
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02-19-2009, 01:14 PM
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I was almost hit by a passenger train in BC when I was walking the tracks one night at age 14. It came around a bend behind me doing about 70km/h and by the time I heard it, it was basically on top of me. I can see how people are struck, it was night, I didnt have headphones on yet I couldnt hear it until it was literally too late.
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02-19-2009, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
I realize the Darwin thing is mentioned in jest, but I am sure most of us - if not all, can think back to times in out past when we did something risky or acted in an oblivious or ignorant manner. I know I've done things in the past that gives me the shivers. Two times for me come to mind. Once was when I fell though the ice on a frozen lake. Another was when I dove into shallow water and hit my head.
Almost everyone does something stupid at some point, it's just most of us don't die from it and hopefully learn from it.
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Exactly. Its only looking back in hindsight that you'd go "man, that was dumb! What were they thinking?".
Where I work I have to pass through some railroad tracks everyday to get to the office. Usually I'm the most careful guy in that I look 2 or 3 times even if the lights aren't flashing to make sure there's no train before I proceed through it.
But one time, i was late, the lights were flashing, and I can see the train coming. It was actually really far away in that I had more than enough time to go through the tracks. And I decided to cross it that one time, knowing that a train was coming. Right after I did that I knew I did something really dumb, because even though I could have made it, what if for some reason my car got stuck on the tracks? I would have been toast.
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02-19-2009, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by The Yen Man
Exactly. Its only looking back in hindsight that you'd go "man, that was dumb! What were they thinking?".
Where I work I have to pass through some railroad tracks everyday to get to the office. Usually I'm the most careful guy in that I look 2 or 3 times even if the lights aren't flashing to make sure there's no train before I proceed through it.
But one time, i was late, the lights were flashing, and I can see the train coming. It was actually really far away in that I had more than enough time to go through the tracks. And I decided to cross it that one time, knowing that a train was coming. Right after I did that I knew I did something really dumb, because even though I could have made it, what if for some reason my car got stuck on the tracks? I would have been toast.
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That's Darwin's evolution in a nut shell - you do something stupid, survive and learn from it or you do something stupid and die. Either way, the IQ quotient of society increases.
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02-19-2009, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by guzzy
natural selection
as far as I am concerned people who walk in front of big white trains with flashing lights don't deserve to breathe the same air I breathe.
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Wow, ignorant much?
Do you think that way for everyone killed in an accident? Sometimes daily life and the stress that comes with it makes people loose focus but to say they deserved to die is ######ed. you should be ashamed of yourself.
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02-19-2009, 03:36 PM
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That's Darwin's evolution in a nut shell - you do something stupid, survive and learn from it or you do something stupid and die. Either way, the IQ quotient of society increases. 
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Really? So that's why we go through x many numbers of wars. Why we put up with dictators, genocide, coddle criminals and on and on and on. Because we are actually learning from our mistakes?
I'd stick to birds etc. if you want ammo for Darwin. Humans have a amazing capacity to just Pete and Repeat.
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02-19-2009, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by North East Goon
Are you ignorantly proclaiming that the Marlborough station to be more violent then others? 
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Says the guy called North East Goon.
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02-19-2009, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler
That's Darwin's evolution in a nut shell - you do something stupid, survive and learn from it or you do something stupid and die. Either way, the IQ quotient of society increases. 
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Sorry, I'm not sure if this was said in jest or not, but if not, then I really don't agree. Most of the time, there are external circumstances that influence stupid decisions. A lot of people don't do dumb things because they're naturally dumb, they just do it because they had a brain fart for whatever reason. I refuse to believe all the Einsteins on this board have never done stupid things in their lives as a result of poor judgement.
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