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Old 02-16-2009, 11:46 AM   #81
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Nope, hated it. Was all pumped to seei it, went first day, waited three hours to get in, hated every second of it. the whole movie just seemed really forced and akward to me.
So....they were true to the novel. That should be a plus.

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I liked the Da vinci code, and Angels and Demons....

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Everybody was mis-cast in Gran Torino except Clint Eastwood.
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I think they cast ugly women in these superhero movies to appeal to the geek demographic these movies target. Homely women are perceived as more attainable to the mouth breathers watching the movie. It's the same reason they cast Toby McGuire as the superhero, it's easier for the propeller heads to place themselves in the fantasy, "if Toby can do it, so can I."
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Everybody was mis-cast in Gran Torino except Clint Eastwood.
Yep, I think I could have been more believable as the character of Tao, and christ, Im not even Asian.
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I think Maggie has a classic beauty look to her. She certainly isn't anything offensive, and casting some incredibly hot woman as the assistant DA would have stretched believability. That casting worked well IMO. Maggie looked like the ambitious, righteous, college educated, character she was supposed to represent.

But yeah, pretty faces are what's really important when watching a movie...
Agreed. I tend to like character actors and actresses who have distinctive faces, not necessarily the prettiest. For actresses, that means ones like Maggie Gyllenhaal, Zooey Deschanel, Eva Green, or Keira Knightly. But either way, I'd rather see an pretty, skilled actress than an amazingly hot but untalented actress.
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I liked the Da vinci code, and Angels and Demons....

Again, only an Oilers fan....

Lol. Just messin' with ya, Stang....
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I'm far from a literary snob. Heck most of my spare reading time is spent with fantasy and sci fi and much of that simple toss away novels, but Dan Brown has such a knack for using the worst, most awkard turn of phrase possible. Not unlike some of my posts on a message board! The difference being i don't pretend to be a writer. His novels are one step from a detailed outline. A poor first draft that he never got around to editing and critiquing every sentence and phrase. Well I'm guessing as I've never made it all the way through one of his books.

The only other book that I have read in the past 10 years that is close in suckiness is The Redemption of Althalus by Eddings. Their stuff is never close to literary greatness or anything but wow was that book bad.
It's nothing to do with being a literary snob. There's plenty of literary value to be mined from fantasy and sci-fi; personally, I love a lot of it. But as you pointed out, it's Dan Brown's ability to turn the most cliched, gag-inducing phrases that makes his stuff crap. Another writer equally as guilty is Clive Cussler.
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Again, only an Oilers fan....

Lol. Just messin' with ya, Stang....

I could be wrong but I think Ernie is an Oilers fan too...
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I just saw Passchendaele, that Paul Gross movie funded by the government and it totally confirmed to me that we should never, ever make taxpayers fund "made in Canada" cinema.
Technically, Canadian taxpayers have been helping to fund a huge proportion of Hollywood films through the Canadian Film or Video Production Tax Credit.

Basically, any film being shot in Canada - if there are enough Canadians working in certain roles on the production (which hollywood always makes sure there are), then the production gets huge, huge tax breaks.

Flims shot wholly or partially in Canada over the last several years include:

Alien v. Predator: Requiem, The Butterfly Effect, Blade, Blade Trinity, The Exorcism of Emily Rose, Freddy v. Jason, Hot Rod, I Robot, Juno, Night at the Museum, Rocky IV, The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants, Spy Game, Watchmen, Ararat, American Psycho, The Big Hit, The Boondock Saints, Chicago, Cinderella Man, Detroit Rock City, The Fly, Good Will Hunting, Harold & Kumar go to White Castle, The Incredible Hulk, My Big Fat Greek Wedding, Pushing Tin and True Lies

So be proud of 'made in Canada' cinema.

As for 'worst casting ever' the title has to go to Jenifer Lopez in Gigli. I have never heard a woman utter the word 'vagina' with such discomfort and lack of conviction. And she's supposed to be playing a lesbian.
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Mis-cast perhaps. But then again i was actually able to sit through the movie and at least enjoy the bad performances. More than I can say about the book which was just painful to read. Dan Brown is just a horrible writer.
I enjoyed the books...I wasn't reading them for any personal fulfillment or to try to educate myself in some way. I read them for fun...and they were fun. They weren't perfect by any stretch but to each their own, eh?
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Flims shot wholly or partially in Canada over the last several years include:

Alien v. Predator: Requiem, The Butterfly Effect, Blade, Blade Trinity, The Exorcism of Emily Rose, Freddy v. Jason, Hot Rod, I Robot, Juno, Night at the Museum, Rocky IV, The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants, Spy Game, Watchmen, Ararat, American Psycho, The Big Hit, The Boondock Saints, Chicago, Cinderella Man, Detroit Rock City, The Fly, Good Will Hunting, Harold & Kumar go to White Castle, The Incredible Hulk, My Big Fat Greek Wedding, Pushing Tin and True Lies

So be proud of 'made in Canada' cinema.
There is a big difference between "made in Canada" cinema and a big budget Hollywood film that happens to be filmed in a Canadian location.
Just like I dont consider Lord of the Rings to be New Zealand cinema.
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There is a big difference between "made in Canada" cinema and a big budget Hollywood film that happens to be filmed in a Canadian location.
Just like I dont consider Lord of the Rings to be New Zealand cinema.
Okay then, how do you determine what is and is not "national" film? Who needs to be Canadian on the production for it to be Canadian? Does it matter where the money is coming from? Who the producers are?

While I agree with you that a film like "True Lies" shouldn't be considered Canadian cinema because it was partially shot here, it's a difficult question, and something the Canadian film industry has struggled to answer even for itself.
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I'd say it's the production company that makes it Canadian or not. Its all about where the money is coming from. That holds the strongest sway in my mind anyway. writer/director comes next. If it were a Canadian writer/director who worked in Canada, and filmed in Canada but then got American money to produce I'd have to go with Canadian.

It is a fine line and one that i'm not entirely sure of myself but when its Hollywood bankrolling these films the location is not important imho.
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I'd pretty much throw in anything with Nicholas Cage. How this man won an Oscar is beyond me - I absolutely loathed "Leaving Las Vegas" and had half a mind to demand my money back from the theater after having those two hours stolen from me.
I HATE this guy. Hate hate hate him. Is there any movie this guy does where he doesn't just mope for 2 hours? What kind of skill is that? He has a seat on my plane. The one that's full of people that I hate. The one that's going to crash. He'll be sitting in the front row between Dominic Hasek and Rosie O'Donnel.

Oh, and FTR, the reason why my hatred for him boiled over today is because last night, my g/f tried to convince me to watch City of Angels (because it just happened to be on TV). So I sat through the first half hour as this f'ing loser just wandered around a hospital with a creepy look on his face. Then he started creeping around the chick's bathroom while she bathed. Then he started creeping around the library and stalking her there. Then I snapped and changed the g.d. channel. How the hell anyone can stomach that freaky, weird, creepy guy is a mystery to me. I want him dead.
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I'd say it's the production company that makes it Canadian or not. Its all about where the money is coming from. That holds the strongest sway in my mind anyway. writer/director comes next. If it were a Canadian writer/director who worked in Canada, and filmed in Canada but then got American money to produce I'd have to go with Canadian.

It is a fine line and one that i'm not entirely sure of myself but when its Hollywood bankrolling these films the location is not important imho.
I see one like History of Violence falling right on the edge between Canadian and not Canadian. Filmed in Canada, Canadian director, lots of Canadian actors in the cast (although not in the main roles), but ultimately produced by an American Studio. Personally, I think of this as a Canadian film, although just barely so.
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I'm pretty sure that Nicholas Cage is the King Midas of sh1t. And that he touches himself. Alot.
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I enjoyed the books...I wasn't reading them for any personal fulfillment or to try to educate myself in some way. I read them for fun...and they were fun. They weren't perfect by any stretch but to each their own, eh?
I read for fun as well, but there was nothing fun about reading those clunky phrases and redundant passages. Writers with at least some skill allow to things to come out during the narrative. Dan Brown knocks you on the head with useless information from the opening paragraph and simply drops in "facts" that should develop and come to the reader naturally as the story goes along. That and he clearly consults his thesaurus for another word and throws that word in without any understanding of context or correct usage. It's like reading stuff I wrote in High School or first year university and as I said I can not write worth a damn. Everything is forced and it made it painful reading...well painful until I stopped reading when i was about halfway through the novel. Then everything was better. Much better.

Those stupid Twilight books aren't any better. Yeah they are written for young teenage girls but my god it's an insult to a reader of any age.

Ah well too each their own. I think Brown is a terrible writer but if you enjoyed the book then great. It enriched your life at least a little bit and that is what books are supposed to do IMO. My enrichment from his novels comes from making posts like this.

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I HATE this guy. Hate hate hate him. Is there any movie this guy does where he doesn't just mope for 2 hours? What kind of skill is that? He has a seat on my plane. The one that's full of people that I hate. The one that's going to crash. He'll be sitting in the front row between Dominic Hasek and Rosie O'Donnel.

Oh, and FTR, the reason why my hatred for him boiled over today is because last night, my g/f tried to convince me to watch City of Angels (because it just happened to be on TV). So I sat through the first half hour as this f'ing loser just wandered around a hospital with a creepy look on his face. Then he started creeping around the chick's bathroom while she bathed. Then he started creeping around the library and stalking her there. Then I snapped and changed the g.d. channel. How the hell anyone can stomach that freaky, weird, creepy guy is a mystery to me. I want him dead.
Not especially my favourite either, but I don't have the hate for him that you do. However, one of his movies I like, which I know is a completely cheesy predictable movie but for some reason I enjoy it is The Rock.
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I HATE this guy. Hate hate hate him. Is there any movie this guy does where he doesn't just mope for 2 hours? What kind of skill is that? He has a seat on my plane. The one that's full of people that I hate. The one that's going to crash. He'll be sitting in the front row between Dominic Hasek and Rosie O'Donnel.

Oh, and FTR, the reason why my hatred for him boiled over today is because last night, my g/f tried to convince me to watch City of Angels (because it just happened to be on TV). So I sat through the first half hour as this f'ing loser just wandered around a hospital with a creepy look on his face. Then he started creeping around the chick's bathroom while she bathed. Then he started creeping around the library and stalking her there. Then I snapped and changed the g.d. channel. How the hell anyone can stomach that freaky, weird, creepy guy is a mystery to me. I want him dead.
Can I book a couple seats on that plane? One for Hugh Grant and another for Richard Gere. I don't think those two could come up with a molecule of testosterone between them.
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