02-13-2009, 01:33 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Supporting Urban Sprawl
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You cant eliminate it as far as I am concerned.
Cut it off at ~7pm maybe, but after that I am betting the people who are riding it are traveling out the core and would need to pay anyway.
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02-13-2009, 01:37 PM
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I'm all for it, I've rarely had any use for it. But if they included Vic Park, that would be a different story.
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02-13-2009, 01:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rathji
You cant eliminate it as far as I am concerned.
Cut it off at ~7pm maybe, but after that I am betting the people who are riding it are traveling out the core and would need to pay anyway.
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Agreed. During the day it is key for pretty much everyone downtown. But after 6:30-7:00 it is a haven for bums and druggies - its like the Bookmobile, but different.
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02-13-2009, 01:46 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: slightly to the left
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will it make a difference? i never have once been asked to show my transit ticket, i think at this point more people ride the trains for free than pay anyways
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02-13-2009, 01:49 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by fotze
Does the city at any place admit there will be a bit of a revenue increase and that they wouldn't mind that part?
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A suggested $25 dollar a year fee to travel in that zone. I don't know if that would even be practical. If you're already buying a bus pass or tickets, then you wouldn't need to buy it.
How would they even begin to enforce it? We don't have enough transit cops.
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02-13-2009, 02:18 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Your Mother's Place.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
will it make a difference? i never have once been asked to show my transit ticket, i think at this point more people ride the trains for free than pay anyways
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. I thought the entire C-Train line was a "free-fare zone".
This post does not constitue an admission that I ride the C-Train without paying...
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02-13-2009, 02:23 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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I was actually checked for proof of fare twice in the last 24 hours. I've ridden the C train on and off for 14 years, it's the first time I've ever been asked. Luckily, I didn't forget to validate my tickets.
Eliminating the free fare zone wouldn't affect me at all.
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02-13-2009, 02:25 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by habernac
I was actually checked for proof of fare twice in the last 24 hours. I've ridden the C train on and off for 14 years, it's the first time I've ever been asked. Luckily, I didn't forget to validate my tickets.
Eliminating the free fare zone wouldn't affect me at all.
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What time of the day were you going though? Certainly not during rush hour
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02-13-2009, 02:26 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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Originally Posted by albertGQ
What time of the day were you going though? Certainly not during rush hour
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Actually, yes. This morning at 7 am, yesterday afternoon at 5:30.
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02-13-2009, 02:37 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
will it make a difference? i never have once been asked to show my transit ticket, i think at this point more people ride the trains for free than pay anyways
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I read an article (will try to find the link) that CTS figures that about 97% of transit riders have a valid ticket. Basically they are at no advantage of increasing patrol for that 3%.
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02-13-2009, 02:42 PM
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Dances with Wolves
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Section 304
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I take transit to and from work each day ... I get checked on average once per month. Twice in the last 3 days actually. Anytime I've been part of a sweep there are only a couple of people that seem to get caught which leads me to believe that pepper's stat of transit payers = 97% to be true. I obviously have no concrete evidence besides that, but it seems about right.
The free fare zone rarely has any impact on me as I travel from south to north and north to south each day. If it helps bring in some funds to improve the NE leg and make it safer I'm all for it. My wife travels that way and it can get a little dicey after dusk.
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02-13-2009, 02:45 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: @robdashjamieson
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I'm sure the extra $2 or whatever wouldn't have stopped the guy from offering to sell me a gun, twice when I used to ride the train on a regular basis.
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02-13-2009, 02:45 PM
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Wouldn't the solution be just to patrol the downtown line more? I don't see how adding the fare will discourage vagrants from using it as a personal toilet.
Last edited by peter12; 02-13-2009 at 02:53 PM.
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02-13-2009, 02:51 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peter12
Wouldn't the solution be just to patrol the downtown line more? I don't see how eliminating the fare will discourage vagrants from using it as a personal toilet.
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I think you have things reversed. They're talking about adding the fare to what is currently the free fare downtown zone along 7th Ave.
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02-13-2009, 02:57 PM
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I'm all for it!
As long as they introduce fair zones across the city while they're at it!
There is no way a ride from Sunnyside to 8th street should cost the same as taking a feeder bus to Somerset and then taking the train downtown.
$2.50 to ride the train from 8th street to 3rd street? Yeah Right!
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02-13-2009, 02:58 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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No reasonable way to enforce the different fares. Pay the fare, walk, or risk the $150 ticket.
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02-13-2009, 03:01 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by habernac
No reasonable way to enforce the different fares. Pay the fare, walk, or risk the $150 ticket.
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How do they enforce it on every train or bus I've ever taken in Europe?
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02-13-2009, 03:03 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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1) Like the bums are going to pay for the fare.
2) Like the bums are going to pay for the ticket.
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02-13-2009, 03:04 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Calgary
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Actually they have been alot more active in checking tickets during rush-hour. Maybe they are finally catching on?!
I'm all for eliminating the free fare zone, doesn't affect me one bit.
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