US federal "vaccine court" rejects Autism claims

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Tower

When they start mixing mercury and formaldehyde for a spice I trust you will be first inline to directly inject it into your blood stream....

You have a source of this? I have heard this claimed many times but never heard a source.

[LChoy]

Originally Posted by Tower

Found your source

At about six days after birth the serum concentration of specific antibodies rises sharply, and this rise continues until adult levels are achieved by approximately the end of the first year. Maternal immunity gradually disappears during the first six to eight months of life. A concentrated level of antibodies is reached and maintained by seven to eight years of age.

Umm...I did list my source in my 2nd post (it was in the Text wrapped including a link) and I explained that it was the first link on google, but I could reference other scholarly articles or my immunology text books

[Bagor]

" While mercury is known to be toxic in high amounts, scientists continue to debate the health effects of exposure to very low levels. Everyone on Earth has some mercury in the blood stream - the chemical is present naturally, from the belching of volcanoes, and is also present in power-plant emissions. Everyone who smokes cigarettes contributes a bit of mercury to the air we breathe. Mercury is found especially in seafood like swordfish and tuna; a tuna sandwich contains much more mercury than a typical vaccine dose.

http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/pr/News/story.cfm?id=160

[Tower]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...01787208020885

Try this one....

[Bagor]

What's your point?

It's 2 and a half hours long and the fella is talking about 10 words a minute. Can you direct me to where he actually says something?

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Tower

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...01787208020885

Try this one....

Just a thought here, but posting cheaply produced internet videos made by crackpots and loons in ski-masks hurts your case more than helps it.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Just a thought here, but posting cheaply produced internet videos made by crackpots and loons in ski-masks hurts your case more than helps it.

Are you saying 9/11 was NOT a conspiracy?!?!

[cal_guy]

Originally Posted by Tower

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...01787208020885

Try this one....

Just to be clear the Dr. Horowitz in the movie has a doctor of dental medicine degree not a doctor of medicine degree.

[Tower]

Originally Posted by cal_guy

Just to be clear the Dr. Horowitz in the movie has a doctor of dental medicine degree not a doctor of medicine degree.

And a Doctorate in Behavioral science plus 2 other degrees from where???????

Harvard.

If your going to try to discredit... List it all. And I'm pretty sure the dental community will take offense to your out right discredit to their intelligence.

Anyway if a person really cared enough they could spend some time (Not 3 mins) and learn something. 2.5 hours is a hockey game, and all of us love that. If you watch further you will see quotes from Troutman's buddy who developed the polio vaccine, Salk (yes I know they are not actual buddies)... But you wouldn't take the time to listen.. Instead scoff at the one who thinks differently!!!! That is the easy thing!!!

Fine I think out of the ordinary... I'm a conspiracy guy. I'll take that from you. My chin is still strong and can take that hit. I know it is not popular to take my approach. However, I feel damn good knowing more and more and fueling my fire to help our fellow man, and even years from now my door is open for you. Love your fellow man.


I'm not a debater and my phd is in entertainment.... (Is there a PHD for that?) I may not word my argument as well as some people who argue for a living, but my eyes are wide open. I revoke the law society. I am angry that the laws are written in such a way that you need to go to school to lean what it really says. I'm angry that our freedoms and liberties are being taken away. But this is why there are people out there who educate and peacefully try other routes... I am a peaceful loving man and I bare no ill will towards anyone who it peaceful and loving in kind. This is my main point.

I said it already but I bow out of this thread. I'm done. I'll post my involvement on CP for others to read and I will help the ones who ask me. That is what I have to offer. Take it or don't.

[Jade]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

When I originally wrote this post, I thought surely -- SURELY -- it was so over-the-top that nobody would actually believe I was being serious. Everyone (with the exception of possibly Tower and others who believe his crazy conspiracy theories) would take it for the obvious sarcastic comment that it was, even without green text. I mean come on, I actually used the phrase "medical-industrial complex" -- how obvious a giveaway was that?

I guess my faith in internet readers' abilities to detect sarcasm was unfounded. One would think I would know better after 15+ years online.

The sad thing is that I missed the sarcasm because your post was actually tame compared to some of the conspiracy theories out there about the medical industry. It really is sad the amount of doubt in the system people can have without any proof, while they refuse to believe what is said by the experts even if the proof is irrefutable.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Tower

And a Doctorate in Behavioral science plus 2 other degrees from where???????

Harvard.

See, the thing here is that there are thousands of medical professionals and accredited scientists that went to Harvard (and every other fancy-pants university in the world) who would say this antivax stuff is dangerous nonsense.

Is he credible because he went to Harvard?

[photon]

Originally Posted by Tower

And a Doctorate in Behavioral science plus 2 other degrees from where???????

Harvard.

So? People who go to Harvard aren't susceptible to the same logical fallacies as the rest of humanity?

Originally Posted by Tower

Anyway if a person really cared enough they could spend some time (Not 3 mins) and learn something. 2.5 hours is a hockey game, and all of us love that. If you watch further you will see quotes from Troutman's buddy who developed the polio vaccine, Salk (yes I know they are not actual buddies)... But you wouldn't take the time to listen.. Instead scoff at the one who thinks differently!!!! That is the easy thing!!!

Watching a video isn't learning unfortunately, all a video can do is make a whole bunch of unsubstantiated assertions. That's why this kind of thing uses that format.

Argumentum ad Youtube

Originally Posted by Tower

I'm not a debater and my phd is in entertainment.... (Is there a PHD for that?) I may not word my argument as well as some people who argue for a living, but my eyes are wide open. I revoke the law society. I am angry that the laws are written in such a way that you need to go to school to lean what it really says. I'm angry that our freedoms and liberties are being taken away. But this is why there are people out there who educate and peacefully try other routes... I am a peaceful loving man and I bare no ill will towards anyone who it peaceful and loving in kind. This is my main point.

I said it already but I bow out of this thread. I'm done. I'll post my involvement on CP for others to read and I will help the ones who ask me. That is what I have to offer. Take it or don't.

Your eyes are wide open, but your not doing as much as you should on the requiring evidence part.

I agree that our freedoms and liberties are under definite pressure and need to be protected.

I'd recommend you read The Demon Haunted World.