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Old 02-11-2009, 08:04 AM   #1
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Not sure if it is directly related to my adventures with downloading Counterstrike but now I have this problem. Device driver in infinite loop. Looking it up on the net apparently it's a common and nasty problem.

I checked on the Nvidia forum and there is a patch.

Couple of questions.

1. Would this be a good time to just upgrade my card?

2. When I download the patch onto my portable hard drive can I upload it in safe mode? Safe mode is the only way I can get the computer to load.
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I am fairly sure USB drivers are loaded by default in safemode, so your drive would probably work. Don't recall any incident where I have had to do that though, so I may be totally mistaken.

Do you have onboard video of any kind or an alternate video card laying around? You could pull the offending card, do your download and install then put it back in.
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I am fairly sure USB drivers are loaded by default in safemode, so your drive would probably work. Don't recall any incident where I have had to do that though, so I may be totally mistaken.

Do you have onboard video of any kind or an alternate video card laying around? You could pull the offending card, do your download and install then put it back in.
Yes actually I do have my old computer(one I had before buying one from Ducay) and I could yank the video card from that one. Question is do I have that disk that came with it. Do I need that to install it. Or will it recognize it just by flipping one in and the offender out?
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Even without the disk you will a have display, it won't be optimal by any means, unless it is a card that windows fully supports, but you will be able to do your download without much problem.

As for the install it should work, but there may be some issues once you restart your system if the old card and the nvidia cards driver seriously conflict. It really wouldn't be the end of the world though, since the driver would already be installed you would just need to swap your nvidia one back in.
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I can't say Ive heard of this error before, but I will look into it.

Keep in mind that the video card is an ATi.
The NV4 that is refrenced is the 'Nvidia Nforce 4' chipset on the mobo
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Old 02-11-2009, 09:00 AM   #6
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I would give that patch fix a whirl. Boot into safe mode and try installing it, USB should work.
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I can't say Ive heard of this error before, but I will look into it.

Keep in mind that the video card is an ATi.
The NV4 that is refrenced is the 'Nvidia Nforce 4' chipset on the mobo
The error isn't on the computer you sold me as it's working fine. It's on my HP Media Pavillon computer. The card on my old computer is ATI as well.

So it's not a video card problem anyway but a motherboard thing?

I'm giving the patch a go this evening.
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Yeah all nv4 errors are related to the motherboard, which likely runs the nforce4 chipset (as mentioned). Installing new mobo drivers or updating your bios may help, or may cause more problems.

New mobo is the best bet, but costly and annoying
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Keep up posted how the patch goes
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Got home at 3:30 today and now it's darn near 6:30. Worked on this patch thing for 3 hrs with no success. The nvidia forum shows a Nvidia Nview Manager which I see in my Control Panel but of course which will not open. Everything else seems to open but this. I assume they show it because after the patch you check to see if these are your settings.

After the patch is unzipped and you run setup it restarts the computer and comes right back to the blue screen with the error message. Very, very frustrating.
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When the Nvidia Nview manager will not open, it means the file system for the driver is corrupt. Use driver cleaning software (ie http://www.download3k.com/System-Uti...fessional.html) to remove the old driver and ALL registry files associated with it, and re-install the newest version.

If it still wont open, reformat.
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When the Nvidia Nview manager will not open, it means the file system for the driver is corrupt. Use driver cleaning software (ie http://www.download3k.com/System-Uti...fessional.html) to remove the old driver and ALL registry files associated with it, and re-install the newest version.

If it still wont open, reformat.
I have downloaded Driver sweeper and driver detective onto my usb drive and this afternoon I'm going to give it a go. Last night I did a restore point and then just went ahead and did a PC recovery. It just added to my problems as now when it boots up it says the system is not completely installed.

So I guess I'm down to running these programs or taking my windows disk from another computer and doing a comeplete new install. That and I still have trying my other video card as an option.
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LOL and now when I get to safe mode it says the system is not completely installed even when I rerun the recovery program. This model does not come with a disk and I never bothered to make a recovery disk. Looks like switch the video cards is my only hope.
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Doesn't the system have a hidden recovery partition? Most systems that don't come with a disk have that. Unless you re-partitioned your HD.
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Yeah all nv4 errors are related to the motherboard, which likely runs the nforce4 chipset (as mentioned). Installing new mobo drivers or updating your bios may help, or may cause more problems.

New mobo is the best bet, but costly and annoying
I have a video card with the same problem and it happens regardless of the Motherboard I put it in. I worked on that thing for countless hours after a buddy of mine bought it, rma'd it, and then gave up and gave it to me. I finally found a fix that works consistently (Assuming its an AGP card I've heard PCI-EX doesn't have this problem) All I do is go into the device manager , system devices and there is an "agp controller" or something similar. Just update that driver by selecting the driver you want to use and choose the "pci-pci bridge".

Just out of curiosity which card are you using? I had all those problems with the Nvidia 7800 GS OC
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Well to update the ongoing saga I spent a couple of hours online with a HP technician. Reset the bios to default etc. Heck even took out my battery and reseated it though I'm not sure why we did that. In the end got nowhere and I'm out $42 for recovery disks. They are to arrive in 3-5 days and I sure hope they solve the problem. You know so I can go on to the next one.
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I have a video card with the same problem and it happens regardless of the Motherboard I put it in. I worked on that thing for countless hours after a buddy of mine bought it, rma'd it, and then gave up and gave it to me. I finally found a fix that works consistently (Assuming its an AGP card I've heard PCI-EX doesn't have this problem) All I do is go into the device manager , system devices and there is an "agp controller" or something similar. Just update that driver by selecting the driver you want to use and choose the "pci-pci bridge".

Just out of curiosity which card are you using? I had all those problems with the Nvidia 7800 GS OC

It's a Nvidia GeForce 7300 LE
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Doesn't the system have a hidden recovery partition? Most systems that don't come with a disk have that. Unless you re-partitioned your HD.
I do have the partition drive and I've used it before when I couldn't seem to get rid of a virus and ended up just going with a new install of XP. But this time it won't work.

It goes through the procedure but then when I boot up only safe mode works and it says the system is not completely installed. Thus I can't get into safe mode and I'm in continous loop. No way to make corrections and no way that I know of to reinstall.
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So went through the process with the recovery disks and had some success. Emphasis on some. I can boot up now into safe mode with networking so I can now download directly off the net. I used driver sweeper from guru.com and removed my video card drivers and replaced with the latest from nvidia.com. The loop screen now flashes instead of stalling there but it still won't boot in normal mode. Plus the display is still screwed up with color lines and in the boot process the letters are garbled.

So tonight I try Raekwon's suggestion and I try swapping video cards unless anybody else has an alternative idea?
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So went through the process with the recovery disks and had some success. Emphasis on some. I can boot up now into safe mode with networking so I can now download directly off the net. I used driver sweeper from guru.com and removed my video card drivers and replaced with the latest from nvidia.com. The loop screen now flashes instead of stalling there but it still won't boot in normal mode. Plus the display is still screwed up with color lines and in the boot process the letters are garbled.

So tonight I try Raekwon's suggestion and I try swapping video cards unless anybody else has an alternative idea?
I'm telling you I spent countless hours on this until I found that fix. hope it works.
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