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Old 01-26-2009, 05:56 PM   #21
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Paint me "Not surprised" that some people missed the point and focussed on the joke. Therefore I will repeat the point of the threaed....

2 people spent 40,000 dollars on first class tickets ALONE. This extravagance on public money and completely unnecessary. They were NOT trying to get medical supplies or whatever to the poor and needy of Africa....

They were attending a conference having a party.
Not sure where you get two people from, the article says three (the head of the agency and two senior staff at approximately 13,000 each), and given Rathji's research, the numbers don't seem that out of line. Again, it seems like a real non-story, despite the rhetoric of the article.
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Old 01-26-2009, 07:45 PM   #22
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Not sure where you get two people from, the article says three (the head of the agency and two senior staff at approximately 13,000 each), and given Rathji's research, the numbers don't seem that out of line. Again, it seems like a real non-story, despite the rhetoric of the article.
Yes you are correct it was three not two. My bad. But First class? I am not sure why they needed to fly first class to a conference that was about Cost effectiveness. This the government version of the Big 3 execs arriving in a private jet to beg for money.
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Abuse of budgets by department heads is a long hallmark of bureaucracy. Your per diem is probably smaller than hers.
As ministers and department/agency heads are not bound by the Treasury Board's Travel Directive, she likely does not have a per diem. That being said, her claim of $330.44 for incidentals on a 10 day trip is not out of line with the Travel Directive. The article's assertion that air fare was 1st class is troubling if true. Federal government employees may only upgrade to Business class as per cabinet guidelines set out in 1992. Of course, we don't know the fair structure of the flights. Perhaps business class was not available or sold out. There are plenty of valid justifications for the 1st class fare and we don't know the particulars.

I'm not as naive to think abuses don't take place and believe me, as a tax payer, as well as a public servant, I'm not happy about them. Other posters in this thread have done the math and I just don't think that was going on in this case. The article comes off as a lazy, poorly researched hack job. I see it as an editor telling a reporter to dig up some dirt. I really had to laugh at the bit about the catered working lunch for 19 employees to the tune of $143.83. That's a whopping $7.57 per employee. Wow, Adscam 2 I tell ya!

I know I'm ranting but I'm a little sick of the double standard applied to the public sector. Perhaps I'm being hyper-sensitive but a government official flies overseas and they're accused of spending like a rock star. Similar practices in the private sector are OK though and just the cost of doing business.

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^^ one company I worked for had a policy if the flight was over a certain number of hours an upgraded class was acceptable. Perhaps the government has similar policies.

And really now, out of all the government "waste" that goes on you've picked on 30k? There has got to be much much more lower hanging fruit than this....or if this is the best example then well done government!
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Yes you are correct it was three not two. My bad. But First class? I am not sure why they needed to fly first class to a conference that was about Cost effectiveness. This the government version of the Big 3 execs arriving in a private jet to beg for money.
The numbers I looked up were for business class, and the total was $35,000. There was no first class available that I could find. The article does claim they paid first class, but if the price is pretty much the same as business class tickets, I don't see how it is different. If someone is able to find actual flights to Ghana that have first and business class available, it would clarify this.
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