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Old 01-26-2009, 02:48 PM   #21
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A few points to ponder

#1) Why is a team that hasn't won in 4 years still in this league? This is a blatant failure by the league.

#2) I suppose they "Ran it up" HOWEVER, they were up 25-0 in 3 mins. I am not sure how long these game are, but they certianly took the foot off the gas HUGE. How much can you not try before it becomes extra embarassing? Should the girls purposely miss shots? Throw the ball out of bounds? They played their bench players.

#3) I agree 100% with the coach's reaction to the apology.


Why is the school making an apology that the players should be ashamed? The league should be ashamed for allowing two teams of such an obvious skill difference play.

Was it in good sportsmenship? No. But firing coach because he either did his job and won the game, or because he defended his players is the school taking the easy way out.
You admit they ran up the score and that it was poor sportsmanship. Isn't that cause enough to fire the coach, especially for a private Christian school? Is that the values those parent are hoping the school is teaching?

Do you really want a bunch of high school girls like Captain Crunch?

And back when I played HS ball, they were 8 minute quarters.
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Old 01-26-2009, 02:53 PM   #22
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And back when I played HS ball, they were 8 minute quarters.
As far as I know the US high school system still uses 8 minute quarters. In Western Canada we use international rules, which uses 20 minute halves.
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Oh man, I didn't realize this thread got Godwin'd!
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Old 01-26-2009, 03:02 PM   #24
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As far as I know the US high school system still uses 8 minute quarters. In Western Canada we use international rules, which uses 20 minute halves.
Yeah I played SW Ont in the mid 80s.

And in our league we had a school for the deaf. They were allowed to put their team in the junior division (approx grade 10), no matter their age. In volleyball they were competitive, but in basketball they weren't; they couldn't hear (or be told) when someone was coming in for a steal from behind, and if we had an open player down court, we could yell and no one would go back to defend. Mind you, those disadvantages were offset by the fact that half their team needed to shave. It was never a blow-out, but it wasn't close, either (10-15 points, if I recall).
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The coach's side of the story.

http://www.flightbasketball.com/100-...rom-Coach.html

Sounds like the reporter really sensationalized it and apparently wasn't even at the game.

Could the coach be a victim of circumstance here?
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Old 01-26-2009, 03:47 PM   #26
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The coach's side of the story.

http://www.flightbasketball.com/100-...rom-Coach.html

Sounds like the reporter really sensationalized it and apparently wasn't even at the game.

Could the coach be a victim of circumstance here?
So I guess the original story was embellished a lot. If what the coach says is true, I guess she should not be fired. Maybe the other team is really that bad.
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You admit they ran up the score and that it was poor sportsmanship. Isn't that cause enough to fire the coach, especially for a private Christian school? Is that the values those parent are hoping the school is teaching?

Do you really want a bunch of high school girls like Captain Crunch?

And back when I played HS ball, they were 8 minute quarters.
Maaannnnn, I'd be totally hot as a high school girl.
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The coach's side of the story.

http://www.flightbasketball.com/100-...rom-Coach.html

Sounds like the reporter really sensationalized it and apparently wasn't even at the game.

Could the coach be a victim of circumstance here?
Perhaps, but to go from saying, "We are hardly the 'elite basketball powerhouse' that we are described as in the National and local media" to saying, "Two years later we made the first Final Four appearance in the school’s history" is kind of contradicting himself. Which is it, are they a Final 4 team or not?

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"They are really good," Civello said. "Their point guard is terrific. This is what it came down to in the second half: steal at half court and layup. Steal and layup. Steal and layup. It was a layup drill. They finally eased up when they got to 100 with about four minutes left." Covenant's point guard had 48 points.
So if he was subbing off the bench, how did one player get 48 points? Wouldn't he have subbed her, or maybe advised her to let up?

Well, I guess they won't need to worry about that again.
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I think this is a hyper-competitive coach who pushed too far.
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Yeah I played SW Ont in the mid 80s.

And in our league we had a school for the deaf. They were allowed to put their team in the junior division (approx grade 10), no matter their age. In volleyball they were competitive, but in basketball they weren't; they couldn't hear (or be told) when someone was coming in for a steal from behind, and if we had an open player down court, we could yell and no one would go back to defend. Mind you, those disadvantages were offset by the fact that half their team needed to shave. It was never a blow-out, but it wasn't close, either (10-15 points, if I recall).
Oh man, those kids must have been LAID OUT with some harsh picks since they couldn't hear any of their teammates tell them about an upcoming pick, haha.
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Old 01-26-2009, 05:30 PM   #30
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I didn't bet on that game, home team had crappy odds

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Old 01-26-2009, 05:31 PM   #31
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Not really. Since they were allowed seniors on their junior team, they had some big guys.

Really, the biggest difference was if a whistle blew, you had to stop and be ready for them to keep playing. Some of them could hear a bit, but with others, of they were driving the lane when the whistle went, you just got out of the way.
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I woudn't call war or empire building "sporting".
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Old 01-27-2009, 11:14 AM   #33
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That sounds like an interesting level for Medal of Honor. Maybe if EA runs out of ideas they can make a Medal of Honor. Blitzkrieg.
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that is awful to hear about running up the score
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When I played, I remember a certain coach running us because we only beat a certain team by 20...
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If I was the other team, I'd be more embarrassed about another team having to "let-up" against me, than having the score run up. I want them to play 100% all the time, even if i get crushed. I'd rather know how i measure up, then be felt sorry for.
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Old 01-30-2009, 12:43 AM   #39
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BS, he lives in the lone star state, phuk that!!!
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If I was the other team, I'd be more embarrassed about another team having to "let-up" against me, than having the score run up. I want them to play 100% all the time, even if i get crushed. I'd rather know how i measure up, then be felt sorry for.
Exactly, I don't see letting-off as any more respectful. It's really a no-win situation for the coach. Let off, and you're not taking them seriously. Keep the foot on the gas, and it's "bad sportsmanship". And I don't see what the opponents having learning disabilities has to do with anything. Most of the time what those people seem to want is to be treated like a "normal" person. Not "you're ######ed, so we're going to go easy on you."
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