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HelloHockeyFans · 01-16-2009, 01:30 PM

Two teams moving in the opposite direction got together this afternoon, and after long trade talks going back and forth, the following transpired:

TO Anaheim:

Nicklas Lidstrom (D) - 85 OV
4.4M

TO Islanders:

Paul Martin (D) - 77 OV
Jonathan Bernier (G) - ECHL
Chet Pickard (G) - ECHL

Thanks for the negotiations Ravi - it was fun. We were involved with two other teams during the talk and while one bowed out, the other one also tried hard to acquire the smooth Swede, but with this deal, we felt it couldn't be beat and helps us achieve what we're looking to do now (a complete rebuild).

Some comments from the players involved:

Lidstrom: Thank God I'm out of this POS team. From the management down to the players... this team and organization is a freaking JOKE!!!

Martin: Why me?

Bernier's agent: My client is demanding to be traded.

Pickard: Uhhh....

I wanna be like Miikka · 01-16-2009, 01:31 PM

GM Patel is very proud to introduce the newest member of the Ducks,

Niklas Lidstrom!

In a deal with the Isles, the Ducks have acquired the best D-man in the NHL, it was a costly trade but something that we feel gives us a great shot at contending this season.

While we gave up 2 very good prospects and a stable dman in martin, we feel that pickard is still 3-4 years away at least. Bernier and Pickard however are still 2 top goalie prospects, hopefully this 8OV upgrade offsets that though.

These talks were tough but fun, thanks to the Isles for entertaining talks.

RT14 · 01-16-2009, 01:35 PM

I hate it and think you could have done better...no, I'm not bitter, why do you ask?

In all honesty, it seems like a fair deal for both and a good start to the rebuild on the Isle.

HelloHockeyFans · 01-16-2009, 01:38 PM

The other offer was very close as well...

Sylvanfan · 01-16-2009, 01:39 PM

Who were the idiots who bowed out?

simmer2 · 01-16-2009, 01:39 PM

Huge move, I was wondering when the Isles were going to start the rebuild.

I like this move both for the Ducks and the Isles. The Ducks get the best D-Man in the game and this should help them immensely. That's a big 8 OVR upgrade, that's for sure.

As for the Isles, they get Martin who is the #1 d-man in Jersey. Whether he should be the #1 guy there is a different argument, but he's a reliable d-man. Bernier should have a chance as a starter for the Kings next year; they've done a good job letting him mature at a reasonable pace. Pickard is another solid tender but he really won't be a factor for a few years.

Overall, I think it's a pretty even deal.

CMPunk · 01-16-2009, 01:39 PM

I think you coulda got a bit more as well, or at least diversified a bit and got a good forward prospect instead of two G prospects

Slava · 01-16-2009, 01:41 PM

Is there a big name on the market that the Ducks won't be adding this year?

simmer2 · 01-16-2009, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMPunk

I think you coulda got a bit more as well, or at least diversified a bit and got a good forward prospect instead of two G prospects

At the same time, it is pretty easy to flip a solid goalie prospect for a solid forward prospect.

RT14 · 01-16-2009, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Who were the idiots who bowed out?

First of all, they were the idiots that were smarter than 27 other GM's who didn't even make an offer.

Secondly, I didn't bow out, but a deal was struck while I was in the middle of making another offer.

CMPunk · 01-16-2009, 01:45 PM

True enough, but the Ducks have Backlund, Wilson and Doughty. I'd much rather have one of them over Pickard

simmer2 · 01-16-2009, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RT14

First of all, they were the idiots that were smarter than 27 other GM's who didn't even make an offer.

Secondly, I didn't bow out, but a deal was struck while I was in the middle of making another offer.

Should have typed faster.....

RT14 · 01-16-2009, 01:49 PM

well if he'd get on MSN ever, that wouldn't have been a problem!

I wanna be like Miikka · 01-16-2009, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMPunk

True enough, but the Ducks have Backlund, Wilson and Doughty. I'd much rather have one of them over Pickard

All of those are on a level above pickard, had I had a lateral prospect fwd I'm sure Kev would have asked for it. He did bring up backlund but I said no, I'm a homer and I think backlund is worth more because he is a lot closer to the NHL then pickard so I didn't want to add a guy of more value, I'd rather just lose both guys at the same position.

Sylvanfan · 01-16-2009, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RT14

First of all, they were the idiots that were smarter than 27 other GM's who didn't even make an offer.

In that case n00b was lying...he would haev been talking to three teams because I know of one team who chickened out, and it wasn't you!

Goffie · 01-16-2009, 01:57 PM

Solid deal all around. Kev gets a solid dman and two very good goalitending prospects. No doubt that Lidstrom is by far the best asset in the deal. I am a bit surprised that Kev never took my offer of Sid and a 1st though.

nyrcrisfer · 01-16-2009, 06:25 PM

Solid deal I think. Lidstrom clearly the best player, and there's no reason he can't keep playing and retain a high rating for years.

But the Isles get some good assets back. Martin is a solid, #1 NHL defenseman. He's got some value. And getting 2 top goalie prospects will help the Isles a lot in the next year or 2. Goalies are hard to find and they might have just landed to NHLers at that position in one deal.

JiriHrdina · 01-16-2009, 08:19 PM

Yup good for both organizations - the Isle needed to make this type of deal and commit to a proper rebuild.