CP All-Time Hockey Draft - Draft Over - I quit.

[habernac]

Originally Posted by Aeneas

At least you spelled my name right! Not like that Larry Robinson fan I will not mention.

up yours!

[cyclone3483]

question on the rules: I would anticipate that Scotty Bowman and Al Arbour can no longer be selected as players as they were already selected (albeit as coaches). However, with the switching rules, the people that selected them could employ them as defencemen...if they had someone else to switch into the coach's category.

Please confirm that this is correct?

Just like if you drafted a player who is also an arena, like Kyle Wellwood, he could be switched back and forth...if you had another player who was also an arena, like Krutov.

[Aeneas]

Blimps fly over arenas. I think you have the two confused.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by cyclone3483

question on the rules: I would anticipate that Scotty Bowman and Al Arbour can no longer be selected as players as they were already selected (albeit as coaches). However, with the switching rules, the people that selected them could employ them as defencemen...if they had someone else to switch into the coach's category.

Please confirm that this is correct?

Just like if you drafted a player who is also an arena, like Kyle Wellwood, he could be switched back and forth...if you had another player who was also an arena, like Krutov.

Yes and no.

A coach cannot be picked as a player.
But a player can be picked again as an arena.

Because an arena is an object.

A coach cannot coach himself but a player can play in his own arena? Make sense?

[Prototype]

Woah... I know Kyle Wellwood came into camp a little overweight, but aren't we stretching here calling him an Arena?

[cyclone3483]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Yes and no.

A coach cannot be picked as a player.
But a player can be picked again as an arena.

Because an arena is an object.

A coach cannot coach himself but a player can play in his own arena? Make sense?

okay, so taking Bowman and Arbour as coaches precludes anyone else from taking them as players, I figured that, but could someone potentially switch them? Say the same person took Arbour as a d-man and Bowman as a coach, then switch them later amongst their categories...

This one is bound to come up later as some decent players were also decent coaches.

And I will relent and agree that Wellwood and Krutov are more blimp than arena.

[Prototype]

I would imagine that it would be possible to switch them, but they were more effective as coaches than players.

I mean, it would be like moving Wayne Gretzky to coach. Your team loses points IMO if he's a coach rather than a player.

[cyclone3483]

Originally Posted by Prototype

I would imagine that it would be possible to switch them, but they were more effective as coaches than players.

I mean, it would be like moving Wayne Gretzky to coach. Your team looses points IMO if he's a coach rather than a player.

Oh, I agree totally on Arbour and Bowman (and Gretz), but some players/coaches coming up were decent at both. Someone might consider this flexibility when drafting their team.

Also just making sure that, when you take a guy in one category, it "takes him off the board" for all categories. That one was just confirmed.

[GirlySports]

Yes, you can switch from any category to any category if qualifies.
I assume all coaches were players at one time or another.

[habernac]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Yes, you can switch from any category to any category if qualifies.
I assume all coaches were players at one time or another.

maybe Ken Hitchcock was a goalie.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by habernac

maybe Ken Hitchcock was a goalie.

Arena imo.

[cyclone3483]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Arena imo.

I think we agreed on blimp. No man is an Arena, although there is the NBA player Arenas.

[Prototype]

Originally Posted by cyclone3483

I think we agreed on blimp. No man is an Arena, although there is the NBA player Arenas.

He's 2 or more of them... 'Arenas' being plural...

[cyclone3483]

Originally Posted by Prototype

He's 2 or more of them... 'Arenas' being plural...

Dude must be huge

[WindomURL]

Nice discussion, I think I will change my pick.

Team Marleau! Hammered! picks Rita McNeil for Goalie
http://qml.quiettouch.com/files/radi...acNeil-300.mp3

But seriously Ladies and Germs, (pause for applause), thank you, thank you, try the veal. I'll be here all week...

Team Marleau! Hammered! chooses with its 3rd round selection, 36th overall, in the Defense #1 category,
Scott Niedermayer

Scott Niedermayer (born August 31, 1973) is a Canadian ice hockey defenceman and team captain, currently with the Anaheim Ducks of the National Hockey League (NHL). Niedermayer is known for his skating stride, and knack for leading or joining the offensive rush. He is considered to be one of the top defensemen in the league. Though he was born in Edmonton, Alberta, Niedermayer grew up in Cranbrook, British Columbia. He is the older brother of fellow Duck Rob Niedermayer and cousin of Edmonton Oilers defenceman Jason Strudwick. As of 2007, Niedermayer is the only player to take home every major North American and international championship in his career; he has won the Memorial Cup, World Junior Championship gold, World Championship gold, Olympic gold, the Stanley Cup and the World Cup.[1]

Awards and achievements

• 1990–91 - WHL - West First All-Star Team (Kamloops Blazers)
• 1990–91 - CHL - Scholastic Player of the Year (Canadian Major Junior)
• 1991–92 - WHL - West First All-Star Team (Kamloops Blazers)
• 1991–92 - Memorial Cup - Stafford Smythe Memorial Trophy (MVP)
• 1992–93 - NHL All-Rookie Team (defenceman)
• 1994–95 - Stanley Cup (New Jersey Devils)
• 1997–98 - Played in NHL All-Star Game
• 1997–98 - NHL - Second All-Star Team (defenceman)
• 1999–00 - Stanley Cup (New Jersey Devils)
• 2000–01 - Played in NHL All-Star Game
• 2002–03 - Stanley Cup (New Jersey Devils)
• 2003–04 - Played in NHL All-Star Game
• 2003–04 - NHL - First All-Star Team (defenceman)
• 2003–04 - NHL - James Norris Memorial Trophy (Defenceman of the Year)
• 2006–07 - Nominated as Starter for NHL All-Star Game (but did not play)
• 2006–07 - NHL - Conn Smythe Trophy (Playoff MVP)
• 2006–07 - NHL - First All-Star Team (defenceman)
• 2006–07 - Stanley Cup (Anaheim Ducks)

Movements

• June 9, 1991 - Drafted by the New Jersey Devils in the 1st round, 3rd overall.
• August 4, 2005 - Signed by the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim as a free agent.

[Prototype]

When I read about Messier being the only major professional player to Captian two franchises to championships, I thought about Nieds, but I don't think he was Captian in Anaheim, correct?

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Prototype

When I read about Messier being the only major professional player to Captian two franchises to championships, I thought about Nieds, but I don't think he was Captian in Anaheim, correct?

He wasn't captain in New Jersey. (someone else was)

I broke my own rule!

[WindomURL]

Niedermayer is currently captain of the Ducks, and was from 2005-2007 until that retired-or-isnt-he debacle.

Someone else was captain of the Debils from 1992 until he retired.

[Prototype]

Ahhhhhh... said player shouldn't be taken this early anyways. Sorry for bringing in the possibility that other players play in the NHL. Carry on.

[JerzeeGirl]

Team He Shoots.....He Scores! is proud to select a coach to run our bench who might just break Habby's heart...Hector "Toe" Blake.

Blake's coaching career began following an illustrious career as a player with the Montreal Canadiens as a member of the Punch Line. He played his entire career with the Habs, winning the Cup twice, the Hart & the Art Ross. Once his playing career ended due to injury, Blake took over the Montreal bench in the 1955-56 season (after serving his time coaching in Montreal's system).

Blake ran the bench for 13yrs, from 1955-56 to 1967-68.

He won the Stanley Cup 8 times which was the record - until Bowman won his 9th Cup in 2002 - and promptly retired following that 8th championship.

With Blake behind the bench, the Canadiens racked up five consecutive Stanley Cup Championships to begin his NHL coaching career. They made the playoffs every season he ran the team, finishing atop the regular season standings nine times and never finishing the year worse than third.

Blake coached 914 games, winning 500, losing 255 and tying 159 for an astounding winning percentage of .634.