have you ever had a dui, or been close?

[jayswin]

There are several reasons I made this thread. Firstly, I just found out that another player from my hockey team got a dui, and he's the third guy from this team to get one. Also, I was watching some American channel today, and I forget which state it was, but apparantly they introduced a new law, where after your first dui, you have to use the blower thingy to start your car for the rest of your life.

I'm not saying people who get dui's should be given any sympathy, or cut any slack, but having that blower thing for the rest of your life seemed a little harsh to me. It would just seem like quite the punishment to be 50 years old, driving your grandkids to soccer practise, and having to explain to them that the reason your embarassingly blowing into a device shaped like a d*ck to start your car, is because you screwed up once when you were 17, over three decades ago. I mean there's lots of things you can do to screw up when your younger, but not too many I can think of, leave you with a permanent social stigma to make you look pathetic for the rest of your life.

Anyways, has anyone on CP ever had one. (I know there was that one guy who made a thread about it.)

[Locke]

Your hockey team certainly seems to have some characters on it.

As for having the breathalyzer starter for the rest of your life, that doesnt sound legal. Maybe for a long, fixed period of time or until certain conditions are met, but 'forever' seems somewhat ludicrous.

And no, I've never gotten a DUI, but I have known people who have, and before the whole lot of them are thrown under the bus by our resident CP angels, they aren't bad people who deserve the worst fate imaginable, they are regular people who made mistakes as drunk people often tend to do.

[jar_e]

Originally Posted by flameswin

There are several reasons I made this thread. Firstly, I just found out that another player from my hockey team got a dui, and he's the third guy from this team to get one. Also, I was watching some American channel today, and I forget which state it was, but apparantly they introduced a new law, where after your first dui, you have to use the blower thingy to start your car for the rest of your life.

Please don't say this is the puckers....

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by jar_e

Please don't say this is the puckers....

Locke and Jar_e, yeah I should definitly point out that this is another hockey team that I've played with for the last 3 or 4 years. The last thing the Calgary Puckers need is more ammo for the CP do-gooders.

[jayswin]

BTW jar_e, any word on upcoming tournaments? Even if it's just Banff or something, I'm definitly down for a tourny. I talked to my other team, and a few of the guys there said they would be happy to join us if we can't get enough players from the Puckers.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by flameswin

Locke and Jar_e, yeah I should definitly point out that this is another hockey team that I've played with for the last 3 or 4 years. The last thing the Calgary Puckers need is more ammo for the CP do-gooders.

Well thats good news at least. That halloween story still makes me laugh.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Locke

Well thats good news at least. That halloween story still makes me laugh.

haha, yeah I went back and re-read that one the other day. We're trying to get in on a tournament pretty quick here, but unfortunitly we've decided as a team to enforce a "no posting about the tourny on CP" rule, as to not make our team look any worse in the eye's of our peers, since we kind of semi-represent the board with our jerseys and name.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by flameswin

haha, yeah I went back and re-read that one the other day. We're trying to get in on a tournament pretty quick here, but unfortunitly we've decided as a team to enforce a "no posting about the tourny on CP" rule, as to not make our team look any worse in the eye's of our peers, since we kind of semi-represent the board with our jerseys and name.

Bah, thats no fun! I wouldn't worry about it, look at the kind of crap we pulled on the softball team and we never had a problem.

[DAN0383]

Originally Posted by flameswin

Anyways, has anyone on CP ever had one. (I know there was that one guy who made a thread about it.)

There's a good chance that if I didn't call my mom at 12:30am to pick me up I could have ended up with one, as annoyed as family can get from you calling then late in god knows what kind of state, for the most part they will be happy you called to get a ride instead of driving home and wrapping yourself around a lightpole.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by DAN0383

There's a good chance that if I didn't call my mom at 12:30am to pick me up I could have ended up with one, as annoyed as family can get from you calling then late in god knows what kind of state, for the most part they will be happy you called to get a ride instead of driving home and wrapping yourself around a lightpole.

Very true and while family is great, this city might find the number of DUIs going down if getting a taxi wasnt f***ing impossible.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Locke

And no, I've never gotten a DUI, but I have known people who have, and before the whole lot of them are thrown under the bus by our resident CP angels, they aren't bad people who deserve the worst fate imaginable, they are regular people who made mistakes as drunk people often tend to do.

Sure but it's a mistake that kills people.

I don't think people that drink and drive are evil, but I do think its a really stupid thing to do and the consequences for it need to be severe to deter others from doing it.

[Drunk Skunk]

Originally Posted by flameswin

There are several reasons I made this thread. Firstly, I just found out that another player from my hockey team got a dui, and he's the third guy from this team to get one. Also, I was watching some American channel today, and I forget which state it was, but apparantly they introduced a new law, where after your first dui, you have to use the blower thingy to start your car for the rest of your life.

I'm not saying people who get dui's should be given any sympathy, or cut any slack, but having that blower thing for the rest of your life seemed a little harsh to me. It would just seem like quite the punishment to be 50 years old, driving your grandkids to soccer practise, and having to explain to them that the reason your embarassingly blowing into a device shaped like a d*ck to start your car, is because you screwed up once when you were 17, over three decades ago. I mean there's lots of things you can do to screw up when your younger, but not too many I can think of, leave you with a permanent social stigma to make you look pathetic for the rest of your life.

Anyways, has anyone on CP ever had one. (I know there was that one guy who made a thread about it.)

It's Illinois or Iowa, I've heard it advertised on local radio stations.

Shortly I turned 21, for awhile, I had a few close calls - not proud of it, but it happened. I'm much smarter nowadays, and will not drive after drinking.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Locke

And no, I've never gotten a DUI, but I have known people who have, and before the whole lot of them are thrown under the bus by our resident CP angels, they aren't bad people who deserve the worst fate imaginable, they are regular people who made mistakes as drunk people often tend to do.

Tell that to the family i know whose teenage daughter was killed by a drunk driver some 10 years ago.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Locke

Very true and while family is great, this city might find the number of DUIs going down if getting a taxi wasnt f***ing impossible.

Yeah, and that "we'll drive you and your car home" service is too bloody expensive. "Just give us $100 and we'll get you and your car home safely".

In the summer it's okay, cause I find I usually just end up passing out in fields, parks, ditches etc after drunken nights, and then I just drive home in the morning after I remember where I am, and what my name is.

But the winter is a different story. One time I had a few too many at the bar, so after closing time I decided to sit in my car and wait til I sobered up, and of course I needed to have the heat on, and therefore the car needed to be running. A cop pulled inot the parking lot, and walked up to my window. I told him I was too drunk to drive at the moment and that I was going to wait it out in my car, listening to music. I thought he'd be happy to hear that I was doing the right thing and not attempting to drive home impaired, but instead he gave me a lecture about how he could give me a dui just for being in the drivers seat with the car started.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Dion

Tell that to the family i know whose teenage daughter was killed by a drunk driver some 10 years ago.

Man, I can't thing of anything worse to happen to a family. I've always been brought up to be forgiving, even to people who do really bad things, but it would take a lot for me to forgive someone who killed a family member in that nature.

A buddy of mine killed his best friend a few years ago, and you can't imagine the pain he lives with these days. He drove him and his buddy home from the bar, he was just trashed, and drove about 90km's/hr down an alley. He hit a parked car, which just crushed the passenger side of the car.

So basically, he was trapped in the drivers seat with minor injuries, while his buddy layed there dying beside him. Then his buddy looked over and said "sorry man, I'm not going to make it", and closed his eyes. He went to jail for 4 years because of it, but being in jail was the least of his problems. Apparanty to this day, there isn't a night where his buddie's screams don't wake him up sweating in the middle of the night.

[iggypop]

Originally Posted by flameswin

Yeah, and that "we'll drive you and your car home" service is too bloody expensive. "Just give us $100 and we'll get you and your car home safely".

In the summer it's okay, cause I find I usually just end up passing out in fields, parks, ditches etc after drunken nights, and then I just drive home in the morning after I remember where I am, and what my name is.

But the winter is a different story. One time I had a few too many at the bar, so after closing time I decided to sit in my car and wait til I sobered up, and of course I needed to have the heat on, and therefore the car needed to be running. A cop pulled inot the parking lot, and walked up to my window. I told him I was too drunk to drive at the moment and that I was going to wait it out in my car, listening to music. I thought he'd be happy to hear that I was doing the right thing and not attempting to drive home impaired, but instead he gave me a lecture about how he could give me a dui just for being in the drivers seat with the car started.

My cousin currently doesn't have his license for the next couple months for this exact reason. He did the same thing. Got drunk, but decided it would be smartest to simply fall asleep in his drivers seat in a parking lot rather than drive home.

He was woken by a cop, who proceeded to give him a DUI and impound his car.

Shouldn't cops be supporting moves like this. Most kids his age would merely drive the couple blocks and go home to bed; heck they probably wouldn't get caught either.

But rather, he did the right thing, and now he is without a license for a few more months.

Makes sense to me....

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by JorjeHrdina

Sure but it's a mistake that kills people.

I don't think people that drink and drive are evil, but I do think its a really stupid thing to do and the consequences for it need to be severe to deter others from doing it.

The worst part of this is most people are probably no more than $30 away from their home, yet they still drive because it convenient the next morning.

People who are drunk and drive are idiots. People can do what they want, I am far from a CP good do'er, but is it worth the extended chance of killing someone because you didn't want to pay for a cab, didn't know how to get to your car the next day or crashing on a couch?

There is limits where you should just say no and find an alternative. Having 3 beers over the length of a hockey game and you are probably fine. If you are bringing out shots find a ride home!

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by HOOT

The worst part of this is most people are probably no more than $30 away from their home, yet they still drive because it convenient the next morning.

People who are drunk and drive are idiots. People can do what they want, I am far from a CP good do'er, but is it worth the extended chance of killing someone because you didn't want to pay for a cab, didn't know how to get to your car the next day or crashing on a couch?

There is limits where you should just say no and find an alternative. Having 3 beers over the length of a hockey game and you are probably fine. If you are bringing out shots find a ride home!

Just to clarify, when guys from the Puckers hockey team are reffering to some CP'ers as "do-gooders", I think I can speak for all of us when I say, we're not reffering to people who have strong opinions against drinking and driving, or posters who call people out for drinking and driving.

[CMPunk]

Originally Posted by iggypop

My cousin currently doesn't have his license for the next couple months for this exact reason. He did the same thing. Got drunk, but decided it would be smartest to simply fall asleep in his drivers seat in a parking lot rather than drive home.

He was woken by a cop, who proceeded to give him a DUI and impound his car.

Shouldn't cops be supporting moves like this. Most kids his age would merely drive the couple blocks and go home to bed; heck they probably wouldn't get caught either.

But rather, he did the right thing, and now he is without a license for a few more months.

Makes sense to me....

The issue with this is, how do the Police know that he doesn't plan to drive home? Take his word for it? I'm sure there have been plenty of people that have told you they aren't going to drive and proceed to do the exact opposite.

If you drink, don't get behind the wheel regardless of if the car is on or not.

[the_only_turek_fan]

I have tested faith many times and have vowed to stop.

It really really is not worth it. I am so ashamed of what I did in the past and if I could go back and change it I would.

I will never drink and drive again. Just a stupid thing to do.

iggypop, that is something I have done in the past and kinda agree with you and CMPunk. The cop is in a tough spot, but in his cousins defence he was not drinking and driving, he was drinking and sitting in a car. What is the difference between someone sitting in a car that could be planning to drive home and someone at a party planning to drive home?