Sooo...driving is a BITCH. Rant here to alleviate stress.

[metallicat]

That actually helps more than anything, because it disperses the sand, other than where it was just put down.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Oxygen-Supply

4: All the people with those Snow tires. YOU and your big treads are taking off all the gravel the city is putting down.

are you actually saying that people shouldn't be using winter tires? this is the dumbest thing i have ever heard, if more people had winter tires in weather like this we wouldn't have so many accidents

[photon]

Just use up the snow removal budget for the next so many years and buy everyone in the city winter tires. Done.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by photon

Just use up the snow removal budget for the next so many years and buy everyone in the city winter tires. Done.

But what about the dirty-stinking-mulletvillians that pollute our fine city? Would we have to buy them winter tires too?

(I just wanted to say Dirty-Stinking-Mulletville)

[photon]

Free landscaping gravel!

[Finny61]

Winter tires do pick up gravel, and snow tires are pretty useless on black ice which Calgary is littered with. Still people shouldn't make excuses to not get winters it's common sense.

[LGA]

Mmmm...just got my new winter tires in today, it's like summer driving, but on snow, no more skidding and fishtailing just straight forward and in control.

[Scrambler]

Nobody has snow tires here in Vancouver and with the hills around here covered in snow it's prett dangerous getting behind the wheel. It just won't snowing out here!

[Hemi-Cuda]

i have to add here that people driving in a straight line with no traffic in front of them slamming on their brakes for no reason causing me to swerve out of their way is really starting to get on my nerves. people need to learn that in winter driving you should be using your brakes LESS, not more. a tire in motion can still be used to control your vehicle on snow and ice, a skidding tire cannot

i'm starting to turn into Red Foreman from That 70's Show, i yell DUMBASS to more bad drivers than i can count on any given trip in this weather

[metallicat]

Originally Posted by Finny61

Winter tires do pick up gravel, and snow tires are pretty useless on black ice which Calgary is littered with. Still people shouldn't make excuses to not get winters it's common sense.

All tires pick up gravel and sand and salt, but it's not as if it just picks it up and never spits it back out. There are reasons that #1 lanes, usually the left lane, is sanded first on roads. More cars drive there, and then disperse the sand to the other lanes. I have never heard this argument about sand being picked up. It just doesn't make sense.

[Finny61]

I didn't say sand I said gravel.

[REDVAN]

Driving is fine on main roads. No reason to go under the speed limit on the straight-aways anymore.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by REDVAN

Driving is fine on main roads. No reason to go under the speed limit on the straight-aways anymore.

Tell that to 90% of the drivers on our main roads. It's still a slow go on any road in this city.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by Scrambler

Nobody has snow tires here in Vancouver and with the hills around here covered in snow it's prett dangerous getting behind the wheel. It just won't snowing out here!

I've seen pictures of the Vancouver area and, having lived there for a time, I can't imagine what the traffic would be like in those conditions. It seemed like they put so much salt on the hills that the roads were actually crunchy when you drove over them, but I never got caught in a snowstorm while down there, only the occasional frost.

[REDVAN]

Originally Posted by flameswin

Tell that to 90% of the drivers on our main roads. It's still a slow go on any road in this city.

Tell that to all the drivers I passed on my way around town the last few days.

People need to grow a pair and drive it like they stole it!

[Draug]

Originally Posted by flameswin

Tell that to 90% of the drivers on our main roads. It's still a slow go on any road in this city.

It is all the geniuses out there that dont think they need winter tires. Any sort of residue moisture or ice wreaks havoc on them so they have to slow down .... but oh no, they see no benefit in winter tires.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by REDVAN

Tell that to all the drivers I passed on my way around town the last few days.

People need to grow a pair and drive it like they stole it!

Not even a pair. One will do. Or even none. Just learn how to drive and stop being timid freaks that go 20 on Memorial. Like the loser that I was behind from 10th until Center street. I finally got pissed off and went around him, and he gave that smug look as I passed, and then, of course, the light at Dirty-Stinking-Mulletville Trail was red, so he got to pull up behind me and giggle like a little girl that I actually got nowhere closer to my destination, in the same amount of time, by passing him. Meanwhile, I'm thinking "If I'd have passed this loser 4 seconds earlier, I'd have caught this light and I would indeed have made positive progress. I'd be a minute or two closer to schedule. And have more sanity to boot. There is no need to leave 20 car spaces unless you're driving on bald tires, in which case, you should be shot.

Die. Just die. I hate you and I hate the things you like.

[REDVAN]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Die. Just die. I hate you and I hate the things you like.

I think I have a man crush on you.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Draug

It is all the geniuses out there that dont think they need winter tires. Any sort of residue moisture or ice wreaks havoc on them so they have to slow down .... but oh no, they see no benefit in winter tires.

Personally I don't have nor need winter tires, I have all seasons on my SUV and I laughed my arse off as i passed at the big dodge 4x4 who couldn't get up the ice on Edgemont Blvd with $2000.00/35 inch tires. I actually stopped beside him because I thought he was going to slide into my lane, as i pulled away while he spinning out the look on his face was priceless and full of frustration.

True snow tires are great in heavy wet snow in Ontario or the Maritimes but on the cold ice in Alberta they are a waste of money IMO. People like to say snow tires are made from "softer rubber" so they grip better but my opinion is no rubber is much softer in -25 and the more ribbed rubber on the ice the better.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by T@T

True snow tires are great in heavy wet snow in Ontario or the Maritimes but on the cold ice in Alberta they are a waste of money IMO. People like to say snow tires are made from "softer rubber" so they grip better but my opinion is no rubber is much softer in -25 and the more ribbed rubber on the ice the better.

All I know is I couldn't get anywhere in my acura el with all seasons (just bought 3 months ago) on the first day of the snowfall. Once I bought snow tires the second day, I was in heaven. It was a world I never knew.

I keep hearing all this stuff about how they're not useful in really cold whether and how they do nothing on black ice etc. I've been testing these babies out, and I seriously can do no wrong with them, I feel like I'm driving a large truck with those balls dangling off the back trailer hitch. I can go my usual 120-130 on deerfoot, I can stop on a dime anywhere, I can drive through any thinkness of snow built up on less traveled streets. In fact just the other day I powered through all the large piles of snow on my street that everyone had created from days of shovelling, just because I felt that powerful and awesome in my little rice rocket.

Winter tires are a gift from god, make no mistake.