2008 NFL Regular Season Thread.

[Pagal4321]

Maybe the NFL Network will dub it worthy for a REplay this week....doubtful though.

Still trying to find an adequate highlight package for each game. NBC is just god awful.

[moon]

The Panthers have dropped about 4-5 INT's thrown right at them.

I know that everyone likes to talk about how great Cutler is but he throws a lot of bad balls and loses a lot of games for someone who is supposed to be so good.

[OILFAN #81]

Huge TD by the Steelers with less then a minute to go to put them ahead 13-9.

[OILFAN #81]

Ravens lose but remain in a playoff spot as the #6 seed with only 2 weeks to go. Miami and NE (both with 9-5 records) remain out of the playoffs.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by moon

The Panthers have dropped about 4-5 INT's thrown right at them.

I know that everyone likes to talk about how great Cutler is but he throws a lot of bad balls and loses a lot of games for someone who is supposed to be so good.

Spoken like someone who has seen him play about 3 times this year.

[Displaced Flames fan]

My money is on the Steelers winning out and grabbing the #1 seed.

[Pagal4321]

Alright, so I'm down by 2 points in my semi's. The other team has DeShaun Jackson tomorrow night and I've got Eli and the Giants defense tonight.

I'm hoping for Giants to put up plenty of points courtesy Eli and the D. (Sorry Machiavelli)

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by Pagal4321

Alright, so I'm down by 2 points in my semi's. The other team has DeShaun Jackson tomorrow night and I've got Eli and the Giants defense tonight.

I'm hoping for Giants to put up plenty of points courtesy Eli and the D. (Sorry Machiavelli)

That should be a good game tonight. A Dallas win keeps them in a playoff spot but a loss put them out of a spot with 2 weeks to go. A lot of pressure on the Cowboys to win that game.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

That should be a good game tonight. A Dallas win keeps them in a playoff spot but a loss put them out of a spot with 2 weeks to go. A lot of pressure on the Cowboys to win that game.

and with such a happy locker room, I believe we will see a Giants blow out.

[Machiavelli]

Come on Cowboys. I'm really hoping for a win or else all we'll hear in the off-season is how Romo sucks and T.O. destroyed the room.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Spoken like someone who has seen him play about 3 times this year.

Nope we get plenty of Bronco games up here in Calgary and I often flip around different games when at my buddies house with NFL Sunday ticket.

I am not saying that he sucks but that he makes too many poor throws and doesn't win enough to be considered in the same category as other young guys as Roethisberger and Manning.

But since it is the Broncos I won't worry about getting a rational response from you.

[Machiavelli]

T.O., hang on to the fracking ball!!!

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by moon

Nope we get plenty of Bronco games up here in Calgary and I often flip around different games when at my buddies house with NFL Sunday ticket.

I am not saying that he sucks but that he makes too many poor throws and doesn't win enough to be considered in the same category as other young guys as Roethisberger and Manning.

But since it is the Broncos I won't worry about getting a rational response from you.

Wow.

In any case, Roethlisberger and Manning both play with exceptional defenses (not to mention have more experience than Cutler). Cutler has carried the Broncos on his back all season long. As someone who has a rational view of his situation, I can assure you his season has been phenomenal.

Poor throws is a relative term. Cutler has made some this season, no question. But he also is willing to use his arm to make throws that most NFL QB's not only won't try but are incapable of completing. I applaud him for that and value that kind of QB. That's why I take Elway, Favre and Fouts over Montana every single time the question comes up.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Wow.

That wasn't meant to be a insult but to imply that arguing with a guy that is a big Broncos fan about Cutler isn't really going to be worth it because you are unlikely to see him objectively.

In any case, Roethlisberger and Manning both play with exceptional defenses (not to mention have more experience than Cutler). Cutler has carried the Broncos on his back all season long. As someone who has a rational view of his situation, I can assure you his season has been phenomenal.

He has had a good season, but in my view still makes to many bad throws to be considered with the top guys. It isn't a bad thing and most likely does have to do with the fact that he is youngish still.

Those throws today in the Carolina that hit Panthers in the hands 4 times were bad throws, not sure how that can be argued.

Poor throws is a relative term. Cutler has made some this season, no question. But he also is willing to use his arm to make throws that most NFL QB's not only won't try but are incapable of completing. I applaud him for that and value that kind of QB. That's why I take Elway, Favre and Fouts over Montana every single time the question comes up.

And that is why I would say that players like Elway and especially Farve are overrated when compared to a guy like Montana.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by moon

That wasn't meant to be a insult but to imply that arguing with a guy that is a big Broncos fan about Cutler isn't really going to be worth it because you are unlikely to see him objectively.

Oh, I'm perfectly capable of seeing him objectively, that's not for you to determine preemptively.

He has had a good season, but in my view still makes to many bad throws to be considered with the top guys. It isn't a bad thing and most likely does have to do with the fact that he is youngish still.

Those throws today in the Carolina that hit Panthers in the hands 4 times were bad throws, not sure how that can be argued.

I've never said he should be considered with those guys, who have better teams and more experience. That said, I believe he will be better than both of them when all is said and done. As for the game today, I didn't get to see all of it because they pulled the plug rather early and went to the Steelers/Ravens game. It was a throw away game anyway, I wasn't too upset. I didn't expect them to win. I hope you also understand that 'bad throws' are not always the fault of the QB. Most NFL fans don't.

And that is why I would say that players like Elway and especially Farve are overrated when compared to a guy like Montana.

Montana doesn't make it to one Super Bowl with the teams Elway lost 3 with. Yet, we can never judge him with a bad team, or Elway with a great team...heck, the teams he won the SB's with didn't have the weapons Montana's teams did.

[Machiavelli]

And all is well in Texas.....for now.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

And all is well in Texas.....for now.

Gotta be impressed with the win. I didn't watch, but given the crap that came out of that locker room this week I didn't think they had a chance.

Suddenly the Giants look like the rest of the NFL. Middle of the road. It's going to be a very interesting playoff.

[FurnaceFace]

But T.O. only got 38 yrds! That's not enough in his mind! He'll have to be pissed at Romo. (I'm just trying to fuel the Cowboy soap opera). I'm really happy he did nothing as Ro has him and I need him to get as little points as possible. I just need some points from Westbrook tomorrow night and I'll hopefully get through...

[moon]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Oh, I'm perfectly capable of seeing him objectively, that's not for you to determine preemptively.

I will determine whatever I want and I have seen enough of your posts on here to know that you are a passionate Broncos fans that defends them at all times.

I've never said he should be considered with those guys, who have better teams and more experience. That said, I believe he will be better than both of them when all is said and done.

It was from an ESPN article earlier and CBS announcers all year long. Of course CBS announcers are terrible homers for whatever AFC/SEC teams they are doing so I should have taken it with a grain of salt.

I think he would need to win an SB to do so and don't see that happening any time soon with the team he is with or talent that he has, but I guess it is possible.

As for the game today, I didn't get to see all of it because they pulled the plug rather early and went to the Steelers/Ravens game. It was a throw away game anyway, I wasn't too upset. I didn't expect them to win. I hope you also understand that 'bad throws' are not always the fault of the QB. Most NFL fans don't.

The throws today were bad, which is why I commented on them. They weren't bad routes, tips off hands, caught by the wind or great plays by the DB's, just bad reads and bad throws.

Montana doesn't make it to one Super Bowl with the teams Elway lost 3 with. Yet, we can never judge him with a bad team, or Elway with a great team...heck, the teams he won the SB's with didn't have the weapons Montana's teams did.

Don't agree with this but different people are going to have different opinions and as you said can't really tell. Although those SB winning teams weren't exactly filled with bums. On equal talented teams I would take Montana 100 times out of 100 if I had to win though.

[Displaced Flames fan]

They are close offensively. Just need more experience. Very solid, but inexperienced, at every offensive position.

I don't know what to think about them defensively anymore. They play better with undrafted rookie free agents starting. Baffling.

Predictably, I'd take Elway every time. More wins than any other QB in NFL history sans Favre. Great arm, could throw on the run, could flat out run, brought his team from behind to win more than any other QB in history. Montana didn't face a whole heck of a lot of adversity during his career.

That said, Montana did beat Elway head to head in my favorite Broncos loss of all time. The infamous Monday nighter when he played for KC.

Still, I value the intangibles that Elway brought to the table far more.