The EV1 was the first modern production electric vehicle from a major automaker and also the first purpose-built electric car produced by General Motors (GM) in the United States.
Introduced in 1996, The EV1 electric cars were available in California and Arizona in a limited (3 year/30,000 mile) "lease only" agreement. The EV1 was discontinued after 1999 and subsequently removed from the roads in 2003 by General Motors (except for a few educational and museum cars). The car's discontinuation was and remains a controversial topic.
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The EV1 could accelerate from 0–60 mph (0–100 km/h) in the eight-second range and from 0–50 mph (0–80 km/h) in 6.3 seconds.[27] The car's top speed was electronically limited to 80 mph (130 km/h)
Did you guys know that a production zero emission was ever available?
I had no idea that a production electric was ever on the road. I find this ridiculous that these cars we taken off the road never to be spoken about again.
And I can't believe they have successfully kept this quiet especially now that the environment being such a hot issue.
I want to write more and as this really pisses me off, but this is to interesting and still on TV right now, so I'll be back.
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Reading the thread title, I simply assumed that Jpold and Jroc came out of the closet and have a love baby together.
Did you guys know that a production zero emission was ever available?
I had no idea that a production electric was ever on the road. I find this ridiculous that these cars we taken off the road never to be spoken about again.
And I can't believe they have successfully kept this quiet especially now that the environment.
I want to write more and as this really pisses me off, but this is to interesting and still on TV right now, so I'll be back.
Successfully kept it quiet?
I had heard about it and asking around an informal poll at school it appear that most people had. Plus, you are watching a documentary on it right now. It doesn't appear that they did a great job of keeping it quiet.
When you get to the end of the documentary you will notice that one of the guilty parties is the public, as in people did not want the car enough to warrant it's continued production.
The documentary, made by those that support the electric car, does its best to downplay this factor but even with their bias they have to address this fact.
They did public trials of the car in many cities, and the company recruited private citizens for the trials. At the time I lived in Vancouver, and one of the papers (may have even been the Straight) did a follow-up with someone who had gotten one of these cars to try for free. Basically, the car sucked in real life use.
I had heard about it and asking around an informal poll at school it appear that most people had. Plus, you are watching a documentary on it right now. It doesn't appear that they did a great job of keeping it quiet.
When you get to the end of the documentary you will notice that one of the guilty parties is the public, as in people did not want the car enough to warrant it's continued production.
The documentary, made by those that support the electric car, does its best to downplay this factor but even with their bias they have to address this fact.
Sorry, I was trying to post to quickly. "Keep quiet" is a stretch, but I think most people my age (around 20), have no idea it was ever created.
And you say it was created by "those who support the electric car," but why wouldn't you support them? (I know I'm over simplifing) But a car that can go 260km and 80 miles/hour without any emissions in a time that the environment is supposedly so important; what's not to support?
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Reading the thread title, I simply assumed that Jpold and Jroc came out of the closet and have a love baby together.
That people didn't want these cars does not makes no sense. The people that were leasing the EV1s offered to buy the cars and GM refused to let them buy them. There were definitely people that wanted these cars!!
GM officials have rightly stated that it was a big mistake to drop the EV1 - they could have been ahead of the curve and instead they decided that they wanted to be behind the curve.
Even if the car wasn't perfect, they should have worked on perfecting the technology rather than ignoring it for years until Asian companies created hybrids.
Basically it came down to not being viable under real world conditions.
GM probably could have handled it a little different (ie: not crushing them), but I think they did the right thing financially.
And the EV1 was 10 years ago. The environment has only been the latest buzz word for about 2 or 3 years now.
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EV1 was ideal for city commuters. I'm not one to believe in conspiracy theories but I do think that there were larger motivations for scrapping the EV1 other than 'people didn't want it.' People did want it, alot of people. And this car was such a huge departure from the path we were already on, I think that GM made an irrational decision. And thankfully it's biting them right in the arse.
Basically it came down to not being viable under real world conditions.
GM probably could have handled it a little different (ie: not crushing them), but I think they did the right thing financially.
And the EV1 was 10 years ago. The environment has only been the latest buzz word for about 2 or 3 years now.
First, you didn't read your own link. The EV1 was 10th. And they state that it was a wonderfully engineered car but the problem was range.... which was 40 miles in some cases. That is the "real world conditions" problem that everyone cites. However, the battery issue was being resolved with the EV2 when the project got squashed. Like I said earlier, if they had stuck with the technology they could have been ahead of the curve. They chose instead to stay in the dinosaur stage and let other car companies pass them right by, leaving the big 3 in the state they are in.
And you say it was created by "those who support the electric car," but why wouldn't you support them? (I know I'm over simplifing) But a car that can go 260km and 80 miles/hour without any emissions in a time that the environment is supposedly so important; what's not to support?
Just to be clear an electric car doesn't have zero emissions; well the car itself does but it just pushes those emissions elsewhere.
EDIT: Unless you power the car via hydro or solar or nuclar, then we're talking.
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