12-01-2008, 03:18 PM
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#561
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Victoria, B.C.
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The sense of betrayal is crushing. I actually want to cry watching this BS.
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12-01-2008, 03:19 PM
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#562
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GOAT!
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Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates
Agreed, but he was saying "Dion" was lying about not being involved 2 days after the election.
Just trying to find out where the lie is
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It's a lie through omission of the truth.
No, Dion was not involved in the initial talks... but that's not what he's saying. He is saying that there were no talks that he was a part of ...while USSR and Little France sit there and act like they don't understand the question.
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12-01-2008, 03:20 PM
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#563
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Norm!
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I'm not angry anymore. I fully expect that this province will be strip mined and screwed by three individuals who really can't stand Western Canada at all. I expect that there will be a mass revenue grab from the Oil and gas industry to prop up useless inefficient industries in Ontario and Quebec, and pet projects in Quebec.
I expect that my job will probably vanish due to it not being related to forestry, the auto industry or mining.
I expect that my personal taxation will increase because I'm an enemy of Jack Layton and the New Democrats, and an enemy of the province of Quebec and its seperatist party.
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Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
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12-01-2008, 03:20 PM
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#564
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary, AB
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If I'm Campbell or Wall, I'm on a 3-way conference call with Stelmach preparing a very strong stance. I'd probably start consulting with the US Ambassador too.
"You touch our industry, we cut our money and our fuel, and we vote to separate."
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12-01-2008, 03:20 PM
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#565
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
You believe that.
Hey I have this escalator to the stars for sale. I'll give you an awesome deal on it.
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Well I don't have blind hatred to cloud my thoughts either. In the same way that I do not trust the Conservatives with a majority government, I will give this coalition the benefit of the doubt (is there anything else we can really do?)
Why wouldn't Duceppe state that he has control? He effectively said that he committed to unconditional support until 2010.
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12-01-2008, 03:21 PM
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#566
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Franchise Player
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Duceppe has just said that they will not vote against any confidence motion against this coalition until 2010. But, they are free to vote for or against anything else, as long as it benefits Quebec. How can this not be looked at as a sham by the GG?
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12-01-2008, 03:22 PM
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GOAT!
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Originally Posted by ikaris
Well I don't have blind hatred to cloud my thoughts either. In the same way that I do not trust the Conservatives with a majority government, I will give this coalition the benefit of the doubt (is there anything else we can really do?)
Why wouldn't Duceppe state that he has control? He effectively said that he committed to unconditional support until 2010.
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What do you think unconditional support means?
It means that he has veto power. If he doesn't like something, he jumps the fence to the Conservatives, and it's all over.
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12-01-2008, 03:22 PM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by ikaris
Well I don't have blind hatred to cloud my thoughts either. In the same way that I do not trust the Conservatives with a majority government, I will give this coalition the benefit of the doubt (is there anything else we can really do?)
Why wouldn't Duceppe state that he has control? He effectively said that he committed to unconditional support until 2010.
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The friendly face of public relations.
"don't worry my friends, I mean you no harm" "Vive la Quebec"
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My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
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12-01-2008, 03:22 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ikaris
Why wouldn't Duceppe state that he has control? He effectively said that he committed to unconditional support until 2010.
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Why bother to show his hand? The Fibs and Dippers know they are about to pay the price for that support, why tell the duped voter the conditions to his "unconditional support"?
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12-01-2008, 03:23 PM
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#570
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
You simply aren't that naive.
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Ultimately, it's all I can really believe. Duceppe just said that they wouldn't relent on confidence issues in this new government.
I'm pretty disgusted though that a separatist party can actually have any sort of influence in our government.
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12-01-2008, 03:23 PM
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#571
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FanIn80
What do you think unconditional support means?
It means that he has veto power. If he doesn't like something, he jumps the fence to the Conservatives, and it's all over.
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So that begs the question, why would Dion and Layton be so ######ed, as to table legislation that they know the Bloc would vote against?
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12-01-2008, 03:23 PM
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GOAT!
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Originally Posted by oilers_fan
Duceppe has just said that they will not vote against any confidence motion against this coalition until 2010. But, they are free to vote for or against anything else, as long as it benefits Quebec. How can this not be looked at as a sham by the GG?
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How on earth is able to predict the future and know, today, that he will never lose confidence with the Liberals or the Socialists before 2010?
The is a scam.
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12-01-2008, 03:23 PM
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#573
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Worried about the auto workers...because Christmas is coming.
You know...that poor group of people that make about 70 bucks an hour when benfits are added in.
What a joke.
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12-01-2008, 03:25 PM
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#574
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Worried about the auto workers...because Christmas is coming.
You know...that poor group of people that make about 70 bucks an hour when benfits are added in.
What a joke.
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Ya this worries me greatly.
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12-01-2008, 03:25 PM
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#575
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GOAT!
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Monday, December 1st, 2008: The day the spirit of democracy died.
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12-01-2008, 03:26 PM
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#576
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Did Dion just call himself a democrat?
Seriously?
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12-01-2008, 03:27 PM
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#577
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Did Dion just call himself a democrat?
Seriously?
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Yeah, A NEW Democrat.
Meet the new strong... we lie, cheat and steal our way into government.
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12-01-2008, 03:27 PM
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#578
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Franchise Player
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Is there a way to let the GG know what we think? An email address?
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12-01-2008, 03:28 PM
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#579
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Victoria, B.C.
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i wish someone would ask the real question: how are the 38% of Canadian voters (the largest unified block of any party in the past election) and specifically Western Canada to take this as anything other than a rejection and outright disregard for their wishes? Basically an entire region of the country had just been frozen out of the democratic process.
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There are excesses in science and there are excesses in religion. A reasonable man wouldn't be stamped by either one - Carl Sagan
Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy assassins!
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12-01-2008, 03:29 PM
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#580
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Franchise Player
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Stelmach better grow some huge balls, RIGHT NOW and prepare a response. I strongly suggest you contact you MLA.
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