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Old 11-26-2008, 11:23 AM   #121
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I remember watching a clip from Religulous, and Bill Maher asks some priest, if God is the almighty and wants to banish evil from the world, why doesn't he just get rid of the devil? Wouldn't that make things infinitely better on earth?

And the priest was like..
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Old 11-26-2008, 12:06 PM   #122
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There are actually some Christian groups that believe that the devil has already been defeated (and so has no power, etc.) They are certainly in the minority, and often tend to be more Universalist in their beliefs. Many of them point to Jesus' death and resurrection as the fulfillment of all prophecy, including the ones about the devil's defeat.

These folks use verses like the following to "backup" their belief that Satan was already defeated:

1 John 3:8 - "For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the work of the devil."

John 12:31 - "Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out." (this takes place during the crucifixion)

Romans 8:31-34 - "Who can bring a charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies.Who is he who condemns?" (the argument here plays off the idea of Satan being the adversary / prosecutor in the Old Testament)

Here's a blog posting from someone who believes this -- gives a bunch more Biblical references. Not everyone makes the argument the same way, but the general ideas are often the same.

It is interesting though how various groups have wrestled with that exact issue -- some say the devil's already been beaten, some say God's just biding his time until the end of the world, some others say that God can't defeat Satan yet (for various reasons), ... and on and on.
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Old 11-26-2008, 12:18 PM   #123
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Old 11-26-2008, 02:08 PM   #124
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Chick tract...


























These are actually handed out to young children in an effort to scare them and keep them believing. It is Child abuse plain and simple.
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Old 11-26-2008, 02:12 PM   #125
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Oh Jack Chick Rocks.
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Old 11-26-2008, 03:39 PM   #126
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Oh Jack Chick Rocks.
Dont you mean Jack Chick gets his Rocks off?
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Old 11-26-2008, 03:45 PM   #127
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Dont you mean Jack Chick gets his Rocks off?
Either or.

x-entertainment.com used to do parody rip offs where they applied new text to Chick cartoons to hilarious results until Old Jack threatened to sue them.

In fact, the final parody

http://www.escapeplan.org/chick/Hate/
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Old 11-26-2008, 04:24 PM   #128
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Dont you mean Jack Chick gets his Rocks off?
Jack Chick is wonderfully insane.
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