Is Alberta turning into a total social cesspool?

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Like what, go watch the rodeo, go line-dancing, and drive a big pick up truck all while complaining about the immigrants and hippies?

Like take weekend trips to the mountains, go see concerts... I don't even drive a big truck and I'm not a racist. Thanks, moron. Go sit on a park bench and play... the bongos.

[Flames89]

Originally Posted by peter12

By the way, there is nothing awesome about Montreal. St. Catherine's St. is a piece of nasty stripper trash.

Wow - those are some harsh words for one of the best cities in North America, let alone Canada.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Nancy

Do people actually like to play the bongos? I thought they just did that to drive the normal people out of the park so that they didn't have any complaints about them smoking weed in a public place or otherwise cramping their "style."

Interesting question. Do people actually like to play the guitar or the piano?

I find the hatred of the bongo-playing crowd kind of funny.

"What losers, playing the bongoes. They should go shopping or golfing, like I do. Those unemployed losers are living on my tax dollars, even though I don't know if they are unemployed! And how dare they play music in the park. It should be silence in the park, so I can hear the traffic. There must be two dozen of them over there, and I don't see a single pair of cotton Dockers. Hippies!"

I think a few people around here could learn a thing or two from the bongo players in the park. That thing being "relax".

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Flames89

Wow - those are some harsh words for one of the best cities in North America, let alone Canada.

Yeah, it was meant to be more polemic than anything. It's a nice city and every time I go there I have a lot of fun. But I don't get the love-in for Montreal at all.

This is coming from someone who regularly travels around North America and has seen more than a fair share of city culture. It's great, but a lot of it is hype. The people are ridiculously snobby, it's expensive and a lot of the attractions are very overrated. When you get off the beaten track, then you find some neat stuff, but that's the same everywhere.

[ok, ok,....I get it]

Originally Posted by Flames89

Wow - those are some harsh words for one of the best cities in North America, let alone Canada.

Seperatist Ba$tards!

[peter12]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Interesting question. Do people actually like to play the guitar or the piano?

I find the hatred of the bongo-playing crowd kind of funny.

"What losers, playing the bongoes. They should go shopping or golfing, like I do. Those unemployed losers are living on my tax dollars, even though I don't know if they are unemployed! And how dare they play music in the park. It should be silence in the park, so I can hear the traffic. There must be two dozen of them over there, and I don't see a single pair of cotton Dockers. Hippies!"

I think a few people around here could learn a thing or two from the bongo players in the park. That thing being "relax".

I do know enough bongo players to confirm that most stereotypes of them are almost entirely true.

That said, I do know how to relax and I hate malls and I hate the golf course.

[ok, ok,....I get it]

I love that this thread has skidded off the tracks from the OP's original intent.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by ok, ok,....I get it

I love that this thread has skidded off the tracks from the OP's original intent.

Hahaha, well at least it isn't xenophobic anymore. Well to some people at least.

[ok, ok,....I get it]

Originally Posted by peter12

Hahaha, well at least it isn't xenophobic anymore. Well to some people at least.

hippie hater!

[peter12]

Originally Posted by ok, ok,....I get it

hippie hater!

I really hate hippies and not because it is fashionable either. I have been exposed to way too much of that ridiculous lifestyle to have even the slightest ounce of compassion.

[ok, ok,....I get it]

Originally Posted by peter12

I really hate hippies and not because it is fashionable either. I have been exposed to way too much of that ridiculous lifestyle to have even the slightest ounce of compassion.

Travesty......why hippies have done great things for the world....they did....erhmm....there was that great invention......AH CRAP....I agree they suck

[peter12]

Originally Posted by ok, ok,....I get it

Travesty......why hippies have done great things for the world....they did....erhmm....there was that great invention......AH CRAP....I agree they suck

Hemp adornments is the invention you are looking for.

[Flame Of Liberty]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Interesting question. Do people actually like to play the guitar or the piano?

I find the hatred of the bongo-playing crowd kind of funny.

"What losers, playing the bongoes. They should go shopping or golfing, like I do. Those unemployed losers are living on my tax dollars, even though I don't know if they are unemployed! And how dare they play music in the park. It should be silence in the park, so I can hear the traffic. There must be two dozen of them over there, and I don't see a single pair of cotton Dockers. Hippies!"

I think a few people around here could learn a thing or two from the bongo players in the park. That thing being "relax".

I am yet to meet a bongo player who is not living on my tax dollars.

Normally I wouldn't care about the hippie crowd, but when they are unemployed and they have their mouths full of the "learn to relax dooood" advices when I am on my way to/from work, thats what drives me up the wall.

[Thunderball]

Its kind of ironic, for such a supposedly open society, there's sure a lot of vitriol launched against anyone who doesn't buy into the Canadian Multicultural Mosaic hook, line and sinker. Some of the most heralded, progressive, and free societies on earth are far from mosiacs and a few are downright xenophobic. Are they "wrong"? Are we?

I think this is a valid question. The term "social cesspool" is a little too polarizing perhaps. Is society "too" open, or is societal ambivalence leading to "cultural islands" and the negative consequences? Is the solution to be more openminded, or less.

Here we are in 2008, and Alberta appears to have more of these racially motivated issues (such as gangs) than we did 10, 20 or 30 years ago. What remains of the culture? Is there a coherent shared "mosiac" of sentiment, or a "poorly congealed melting pot" where everyones distinct views just kind of linger into a disjointed broth?

Please note, this is NOT an attack on immigration. If anything, we make it way too difficult for people (and particularly professionals) to immigrate here. This is a question on how we integrate ourselves.

[taco.vidal]

heres a good site for photos of hippies from Montreal's tamtams.

http://tamtamsmontreal.net/english.html

[ok, ok,....I get it]

Originally Posted by Thunderball

Its kind of ironic, for such a supposedly open society, there's sure a lot of vitriol launched against anyone who doesn't buy into the Canadian Multicultural Mosaic hook, line and sinker. Some of the most heralded, progressive, and free societies on earth are far from mosiacs and a few are downright xenophobic. Are they "wrong"? Are we?

I think this is a valid question. The term "social cesspool" is a little too polarizing perhaps. Is society "too" open, or is societal ambivalence leading to "cultural islands" and the negative consequences? Is the solution to be more openminded, or less.

Here we are in 2008, and Alberta appears to have more of these racially motivated issues (such as gangs) than we did 10, 20 or 30 years ago. What remains of the culture? Is there a coherent shared "mosiac" of sentiment, or a "poorly congealed melting pot" where everyones distinct views just kind of linger into a disjointed broth?

Please note, this is NOT an attack on immigration. If anything, we make it way too difficult for people (and particularly professionals) to immigrate here. This is a question on how we integrate ourselves.

Like who?

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

I am yet to meet a bongo player who is not living on my tax dollars.

Normally I wouldn't care about the hippie crowd, but when they are unemployed and they have their mouths full of the "learn to relax dooood" advices when I am on my way to/from work, thats what drives me up the wall.

I have a hippie friend who just got Permanent Residence status here in Canada and so to celebrate we all went to a Flames game. As a welcome to Canada present I bought her a Flames shirt for like $25. She then went on a huge ramble about how this is the most expensive piece of clothing that she owns and the evils of a materialist culture etc etc... I wanted to just rip that shirt into pieces.

[ok, ok,....I get it]

Originally Posted by taco.vidal

heres a good site for photos of hippies from Montreal's tamtams.

http://tamtamsmontreal.net/english.html

I got a few photos in, and then I had exceeded my "body hair" qouta for the week.......

[peter12]

Originally Posted by ok, ok,....I get it

Like who?

Haha, the Dutch!

[taco.vidal]

Do you often have conversations with bongo players? And you actually speak long enough to ask them if they work, and if not how they support themselves, and what sort of government assistance they are receiving that your tax dollars pay for?

Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

I am yet to meet a bongo player who is not living on my tax dollars.