11-20-2008, 04:31 PM
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CP's Fraser Crane
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Apperantly the there were no mods on.... and when they did come on and find the thread they found his info and called police.
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11-20-2008, 04:32 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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Well, it actually appears on page 1 that some people took it serious right away, and no one was actually taunting him. Moreso just sayin "yeah, right. tried this last time" I'll have to, for the mean time, retract my previous stance.
except for the one guy who called him a POS.
How do you use google cache?
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11-20-2008, 04:32 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Van City - Main St.
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Sad stuff, but I wouldn't jump all over the board without atleast reading through it. i'm sure some people were positive, and most wouldn't have believed it to be true.
Props to CP though for being overall a great board where people who have opened up about serious issued like depression have generally gotten positive feedback and support.
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11-20-2008, 04:35 PM
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#24
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First Line Centre
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That link is only for one page, but it looks like he had set up the video stream and written the suicide note before he even made the thread. Looks like some horrible things were said (not even considering the other 50 pages), but he wasn't talked into it. It also sounds like he had attempted suicide on that same forum before.
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11-20-2008, 04:35 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russic
Sadly I totally agree with you. Anonymity is a hell of a thing.
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11-20-2008, 04:37 PM
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#26
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Jayems
How do you use google cache?
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When you do a regular search on google there is a little blue link beside the URL. It's only there for some pages, and I really have no idea how it works.
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11-20-2008, 04:39 PM
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#27
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God of Hating Twitter
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Originally Posted by Superflyer
What is your forum?
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Shroomery.org, here's the link to the whole story:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Vedas
Just to make the point, none of his family or friends considered it a suicide, rather an OD. The chat room logs are what upset people the most, people goating him into taking more and more drugs.
Brandon had a real belief he could handle a lot of drugs, and he manipulated a few shrinks to get all the drugs he needed. It was a horrible situation, and the worst was seeing his mom and brother on the John Walsh show talking about this.
Taking chat room logs out of their environment, things look quite bad normally, but in this situation they looked utterly brutal. Ultimately in this case, the fault was squarely on Brandon himself, not those that egged him on in the chat room.
Last edited by Thor; 11-20-2008 at 04:41 PM.
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11-20-2008, 04:40 PM
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#28
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CP's Fraser Crane
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in a different thread, they were laughing and proud that they were going to be on tv
(link in the first thread)
I also have page 1 still open from before the thread went down....
Some comments
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Fox News contacted me about CJ
I posted the story, the video, and everything on the O'Reilly Factor forums. The producer of the show contacted me about this video and basically said they're going to run a story on the incident and bodybuilding.com, the "misc" section in particular, will be the focus of the controversy.
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HAHA Hey mum! Check it out! Im on TV!!!
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11-20-2008, 04:43 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thor
Shroomery.org, here's the link to the whole story:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Vedas
Just to make the point, none of his family or friends considered it a suicide, rather an OD. The chat room logs are what upset people the most, people goating him into taking more and more drugs.
Brandon had a real belief he could handle a lot of drugs, and he manipulated a few shrinks to get all the drugs he needed. It was a horrible situation, and the worst was seeing his mom and brother on the John Walsh show talking about this.
Taking chat room logs out of their environment, things look quite bad normally, but in this situation they looked utterly brutal. Ultimately in this case, the fault was squarely on Brandon himself, not those that egged him on in the chat room.
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There's even a similar case, citing this CandyJunkie at the bottom, but no link. Dang, Wiki is fast. (Unless that was you who edited it)
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11-20-2008, 04:43 PM
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#30
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CP's Fraser Crane
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thor
Shroomery.org, here's the link to the whole story:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Vedas
Just to make the point, none of his family or friends considered it a suicide, rather an OD. The chat room logs are what upset people the most, people goating him into taking more and more drugs.
Brandon had a real belief he could handle a lot of drugs, and he manipulated a few shrinks to get all the drugs he needed. It was a horrible situation, and the worst was seeing his mom and brother on the John Walsh show talking about this.
Taking chat room logs out of their environment, things look quite bad normally, but in this situation they looked utterly brutal. Ultimately in this case, the fault was squarely on Brandon himself, not those that egged him on in the chat room.
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I read the whole chat log from that night somewhere once... maybe at his brothers website
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11-20-2008, 04:44 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Thor
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Huh, wiki already has the story about the OP
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Abraham Biggs, 19, committed suicide by consuming significant quantities of pain killers and Alprazolam, and streaming his suicide live, under the name CandyJunkie.
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11-20-2008, 04:46 PM
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#32
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God of Hating Twitter
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Originally Posted by Boblobla
Huh, wiki already has the story about the OP
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No, that was the guy who OD'ed in my websites chatroom I mentioned earlier, someone asked for a link.
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11-20-2008, 04:48 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thor
No, that was the guy who OD'ed in my websites chatroom I mentioned earlier, someone asked for a link.
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I was referring to the related case at the bottom of the article that I quoted.
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11-20-2008, 04:48 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayems
Well, it actually appears on page 1 that some people took it serious right away, and no one was actually taunting him. Moreso just sayin "yeah, right. tried this last time" I'll have to, for the mean time, retract my previous stance.
except for the one guy who called him a POS.
How do you use google cache?
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indeed, wasn't nearly as bad as OP here seemed to make it. Seems like more of a guy doing himself in with a audience that couldn't do anything about it.
Unfortunate.
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11-20-2008, 04:52 PM
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#36
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CP's Fraser Crane
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan02
indeed, wasn't nearly as bad as OP here seemed to make it. Seems like more of a guy doing himself in with a audience that couldn't do anything about it.
Unfortunate.
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I read it... you read 1 out of almost 70 pages.. it was pretty bad.
Edit: I should clairfy... I read less then half...
Then I read the thread they made where the figured they were going to be famous because of it...
Disgusting....
Sure the pics were funny and all, but there is aline that was crossed IMO. They knew he was serious, and noone did anything except sit there watch and cheer him on. OF course he probally would have done it even if they never encouraged him, but these people could have saved a life... and they just watched
Last edited by stang; 11-20-2008 at 04:59 PM.
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11-20-2008, 04:55 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: N/A
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Crazy stuff.
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11-20-2008, 04:59 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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Either way, it's pretty sad.
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11-20-2008, 05:12 PM
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#39
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CP's Fraser Crane
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http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-150666
This is taken from bodybuilding.com forums:
" - [a poster by the name of] CandyJunkie creates thread telling Misc. [forum] he'll overdose himself again on drugs live on Justin.tv
- CandyJunkie posts the amount of drugs he's going to take
- Mod[erator]s don't take it seriously
- People egg him on
- CandyJunkie posts a copied suicide note
- People keep egging him on
- He pops the pills and goes to sleep
- He breathes for a few hours, people think he's going to be alright and keep joking and trash talking on his JTV log.
- Some time later many people realize he was not moving.
- Personal details posted on Misc. by a concerned misc. request people to call the cops.
- People tell me he's a troll and nobody calls. Staberella especially is quite a huge cynic and says that he wasn't going to die on that kind of drugs, she insists nothing is going to happen and that people should just gtfo of the thread.
- Miami Police called, the people there do not take the case seriously and tell to call the sheriff of his county, and give me the sheriff's number.
- post the sheriff's number on the Misc. thread
- jjlee138 calls the Broward County Sheriff's office and speaks to them about the situation along with a couple of other people. By the time I called, it turns out 3 people had already called them about it.
- People wait for the cops to bust in on the JTV cam.
- Some people start thinking nobody called the cops, at least 5 more people call the cops, they were told the cops were on it
- 25 minutes after the first call to the cops, the cops bust in. They cover the webcam
- People speculating whether he's dead or not
- At this point of time a lot of people start deleting/editing their posts everywhere.
- Friends post messages on his myspace worried about him, no response from him.
- His best friend posts a thread on the Misc. and informs the people that he's dead.
- Some people still think its a bluff"
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11-20-2008, 05:40 PM
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#40
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CP's Fraser Crane
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Some more gems from the original thread
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should someone call the cops?
no because no one cares. NEXT
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someone call the cops
snitches get stitches brah
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Called his fone and went straight to voice mail.
Left message "do it ***got
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