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Old 11-13-2008, 01:41 PM   #1
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http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/1...an-attack.html
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Old 11-13-2008, 01:58 PM   #2
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Unbelievable the cruelty that exists in those countries, my nephew got back a few months ago with a new outlook on life, once, on patrol they caught 7 insurgents gang raping an 11 year old in front of her 16 year old brother with the corpse's of their parents they killed in the room.

They should round up and move every man/woman/child who wants a better life out of the country and nuke the damn place till theres not even a flower alive.
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This is just about getting to 1.5 million posts, isn't it?
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Old 11-13-2008, 02:15 PM   #4
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This is just about getting to 1.5 million posts, isn't it?

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Old 11-13-2008, 02:18 PM   #5
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CP is approaching 1.5 million total posts - so people have discussed (in the 1.5 million thread) that we should just start threads on every controversial topic we can think of, to push us over the mark.
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CP is approaching 1.5 million total posts - so people have discussed (in the 1.5 million thread) that we should just start threads on every controversial topic we can think of, to push us over the mark.
I completely disagree with this post, and think it is stupid.
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Old 11-13-2008, 02:23 PM   #7
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Meh, let them do whatever they want just keep it out of my backyard!
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Meh, let them do whatever they want just keep it out of my backyard!
Fixed. I assume you meant to do this in green
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All the more reason to be there.
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Fixed. I assume you meant to do this in green
I thought we weren't using the green text anymore...but yes I was joking just trying to get that post count up
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Old 11-13-2008, 02:42 PM   #12
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This crap happens in the States too.. not just Afganistan

http://www.livingstondaily.com/artic...EWS01/81111022

http://chicagoist.com/2008/11/10/mor...are_acid_a.php

Mexico

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/world/ar...&in_page_id=64

UK
http://www.times-series.co.uk/news/3...he_was_dating/

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This crap happens in the States too.. not just Afganistan
Ok, two things:
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  2. that makes it ok?
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Ok, two things:
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I edited my post to add sources...

No definitly not ok.. Definitly horrible.
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This could be anyone. I think it was their equivalent of the Calgary Aryan Brotherhood or whatever the stupid ######s are calling themselves. The crime however is much more severe than their Calgary counter-parts might commit (hopefully) based on the idea they've been living in a war-zone for the last seven years, their own lives/way of life destroyed and/or condemned by the new society. Intended or not, the attackers will set off more rounds of needless combat between two sides completely bent on blaming each other for everything to justify blowing each other up.
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I edited my post to add sources...

No definitly not ok.. Definitly horrible.
I looked at a couple of these sources (BTW thanks), I would argue that while they are horrible, they are different, one was a jealousy issue.

This is an attack planned for get larger results (no women in schools).
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I looked at a couple of these sources (BTW thanks), I would argue that while they are horrible, they are different, one was a jealousy issue.

This is an attack planned for get larger results (no women in schools).
Yeah I can agree... just saying there are ######bags everywhere.
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Old 11-13-2008, 03:11 PM   #18
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This may not be the most popular opinion around here, but is stuff like this really a justification for us being there? Atrocious things like this happen all over the world and have been happening for a very long time. I'm not sure you can look at incidents like this in the country we happen to be stationed in and say "see? we should be there" and then turn a blind eye to the other places that are seeing violence at the same level.

Afghanistan is a tricky situation for me. Years into the conflict and I still haven't formed an opinion on whether we should be there or not. I'm sure we're making positive advancements, but when it's all said and done and we get out of there I really question whether it'll just fall right back to where it was. If that does in fact happen, what did those soldiers die for?
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Yeah I can agree... just saying there are ######bags everywhere.
You should probably also notice that in both cases the perps were caught and sentenced to the maximum degree under the law. Our culture doesn't tolerate this behaviour, not matter what the form.

Some cultures clearly do condone this behaviour, however.
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For sure we should be there. I understand that many posters here need sources to back up claims and if I could remember what newspaper it was in I would inlcude the source but I don't atm. That being said, since allies have gone into the country, the follwoing has happened:

1) Roads are being rebuilt
2) 80% of the population has access to medical care, compared ot 15% before hand
3) Universities have been re-opened
4) Women are going to school
5) The economy is slowly but surely beggining to come back

All I can remember off the top of my head but would say that is a great deal of improvement.

Like others have said, crimes that started this post happen all over the world but one would have to think the intensity/frequecny is higher in Afganistan.
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